Vayne in 5 minutes by Ace Ventura

[quote=Ace Ventura][center][h1]Introduction[/h1][/center] [center][i]Welcome one and all! I will make a quick guide about Vayne presenting my build and giving some general tips. Instead of making a complete guide and putting tons of effort this is what I will do. You can expect more in 5 minute guides from me in the future, but I'm starting with Vayne as my favorite ranged DPS champion. I posted it as tread as I don't really care for votes, I want and I like discussions and this is best place where you can do that.[/i] [/center] [center][h1]Runes[/h1][/center] [center][icon=Greater Mark of Desolation size=35][icon=Greater Seal of Evasion size=35][icon=Greater Glyph of Warding size=35][icon=Greater Quintessence of Strength size=35][/center] [center][h1]Masteries[/h1][/center] [center][url=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=3-1-0-0-2-4-0-0-3-1-3-3-0-1&tree2=0-1-0-3-0-4-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0][u][b]21 / 9 / 0[/b][/u][/url][/center] [center][h1]Summoner Spells[/h1][/center] [center][icon=Exhaust size=35][icon=Flash size=35][/center] [center][h1]Skill Priority[/h1][/center] [center][icon=Final Hour size=35][icon=Condemn size=35][icon=Tumble size=35][icon=Silver Bolts size=35][/center] [center][h1]Item Selection[/h1][/center] [center][u][b]Item Start[/b][/u][/center] [center][icon=Doran's Blade size=35][/center] [center][u][b]Item Core[/b][/u][/center] [center][icon=Wriggle's Lantern size=35][icon=Ninja Tabi size=35][/center] [center][u][b]Required Mid Game[/b][/u][/center] [center][icon=Phantom Dancer size=35][icon=Infinity Edge size=35][icon=Elixir of Agility size=35][icon=Elixir of Fortitude size=35][/center] [center][u][b]Situational and Worth Replacing Items[/b][/u][/center] [center][icon=Banshee's Veil size=35][icon=Frozen Mallet size=35][icon=Last Whisper size=35][icon=Madred's Bloodrazor size=35][icon=Sword of the Divine size=35][icon=Mercury's Treads size=35][icon=Berserker's Greaves size=35][/center] [center][h1]Item Build Examples[/h1][/center] [center][u][b]Standard Build[/b][/u][/center] [center][icon=Wriggle's Lantern size=35][icon=Ninja Tabi size=35][icon=Phantom Dancer size=35][icon=Infinity Edge size=35][icon=Phantom Dancer size=35][icon=The Bloodthirster size=35][/center] [center][u][b]Anti-CC Build[/b][/u][/center] [center][icon=Wriggle's Lantern size=35][icon=Mercury's Treads size=35][icon=Phantom Dancer size=35][icon=Infinity Edge size=35][icon=banshee's Veil size=35][icon=The Bloodthirster size=35][/center] [i][color=red]Note:[/color] This in 5 minute guide is not finished yet! Build is up, but general tips and strategies incoming![/i][/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Skill order is not optimal. Silver bolts is the superior skill to max first. I feel Vayne does so much with AS that you might as well build Bers greaves early as well. I can see why you don't, seeing as you don't max Silver bolts, but your early-mid game is suffering -tremendously- as a result. Wriggles is a fine choice as a starting item. I also agree that if you buy Wriggles, your next items are PD - I.E. Rune choice is decent. Masteries are decent if you are running the dodge boots, but that's a choice I only somewhat agree with. It's not really bad I suppose.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Most people use the skill order that you're using Ace. And I think I agree with it. Duff is just special.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Sooner or later it'll catch on and Silver bolts will be the #1 Vayne skilling order. It's so drastically superior.[/quote]

[quote=Acid Reigns]I usally see tumble maxed 1st O.o IMO they all are better at different things Tumble ---> Harass SB ---> DPS Condemn ---> Nuke But yeh, I usually see people max tumble using condemn for utility, or people maxing condemn using tumble for utility :o Rarely do I see people rush SB, so I have no opinion on it... I dun like vayne in any case, she's boring, short range, and annoying >.<[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]She's bad ass when you max bolts. DPS goes through the roof, you're a terror all game long instead of just end game because of bad skill order.[/quote]

[quote=Acid Reigns]But then she's even MORE boring -.- You'd be all: 'Right click allll day errrr' day'[/quote]

[quote=Khazem]I think the reason silver bolts is generally not maxed first is because you're not really gonna get much procs of it in the laning phase as you need to focus on last hitting.[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]Maxing [[Silver Bolts]] may work well for you Duff but I wouldn't call it 'drastically superior'. [[Condemn]] deals the highest early game damage when maxed but is of course a lot more situational because it relies on enemies making mistakes (or of course using [[Alistar]]s [[Headbutt]] to place someone near a wall ^^). [[Tumble]] is nice for lasthitting, however it deals bonus damage based on Vayne's AD so leveling it first really doesn't make sense. Same goes for [[Silver Bolts]] though (to a lesser extent) as leveling a skill that deals damage based on enemies' max health on every third hit doesn't make a huge difference early game (unless the base true damage is the reason for leveling it early, not sure about the strength of that). If your positioning is pro, go for [[Condemn]]. If you have trouble lasthitting, go for [[Tumble]]. If you want to harass actively (by hitting your enemies [i]three[/i] times - not always easy to do - instead of once), go for [[Silver Bolts]].[/quote]

[quote=Ace Ventura]Yes I usually do grab [[Berserker's Greaves]] early, but I upgrade them into dodge boots as soon as I feel problems with physical damage. Attack speed Seals and Glyphs will help at early last hitting of course, but do they really works better then dodge and flat magic resist overall? Not really. These runes can be replaced well only with armor Seals and Desolation Quints, and magic resist per level Glyphs. Condemn is superior skill to max early if you know how to use it effectively. Silver Bolts is skill that should be maxed last because bonus damage isn't really noticeable and it deals damage based on % of opponents HP. You also need higher attack speed early to pull off procs. That's skill that should be maxed last always.[/quote]