MobaFire Premades

[quote=Adonikam]Wow replaced me again Jhoi =( Just ignore Jet and Boosh I rec'd your guide because it's the most comprehensive one on the site and you made good changes =)[/quote]

[quote=Booshido]its rude to give my opinion on your guide being awful, and its not even your guide! it went from awful build split pushing ashe (not team fight ashe, just pushing cause thats what you do apprently) to jet making it very very slightly better. but every ashe guide is bad so far, i recommend people use PFP's ashe guide for the closest idea of how to play ashe.[/quote]

[quote=Rudmed][quote=Adonikam] [img]http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6664/brbrbbrbrbrbrbr.png[/img] Little bit of pre-game fun [/quote] Xai is TF? Xai is TF? XAI WAS FREAKIN TF? Why did you photoshop it bro?[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]@Booshido: When did my guide ever recommend Ashe as a pusher? o.O My guide has always said to last hit only. I even say not to use [[volley]] on creeps. The only thing I can think of is how I have [[teleport]] as one of my recommended Summoner Spells to Teleport to a creep wave destroying a tower to finish it off, then run away. I understand how that can be seen as split pushing, but it's really not what I meant. I didn't say, "When your team is in a fight at middle tower, 4v5, Teleport to a creep wave and take down a tower while your mid tower is destroyed and you lose 3 people." I PM'd you a while ago to tell me what you thought about my guide was bad, and you must have been busy, so at least I can thank you now for telling me what you thought was bad. It wasn't only Jet's suggestions that have changed my guide - the only things I changed based upon his suggestions (some of which were very wrong, like getting Perseverance on Ashe o.O) was [[flash]], [[stark's fervor]] and the whole issue of [[philosopher's stone]]. I've had extensive conversations with plenty of people and they are all quoted throughout my guide. Last thing, what did you mean "it's not even your guide"? @Adonikam: lol, as you can see that was my third premade 5 ranked game. I think we were still playing normals together at that time. You missed some games last night. Last pick on the enemy team was Moredekaiser, and we were like, "lulwut." Then he proceeded to rape with our Jarvan ghost. You know how you're not meant to focus the tank? The enemy team would entirely use all their CC and Summoner's on Jarvan just to get his ghost and rape us with it. =.= And they had Eve who could easily 1v1 our Jax (don't ask my why we had a Jax o.O).[/quote]

[quote=Dante Rebellion]58 cs with nasus. This hurts my eyes god dammit![/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi][quote=Dante Rebellion] 58 cs with nasus. This hurts my eyes god dammit! [/quote] I was solo top against Urgot and Rammus. They would stand between me and my own creeps. I couldn't risk going past them to the creeps to level up [[siphoning strike]]. Not to mention Urgot was just trying to kill me all the time during laning, so much so that I'd have to pop my ult to survive. It was only until the team battles, when Urgot and Malphite left the top lane - that's when I started to farm. I had 58 CS, but I also had 6 towers/inhibs, 3 kills and 23 assists. I wasn't an idiot - I didn't die to Rammus and Urgot top to get creep kills. My three deaths were from teamfights.[/quote]

[quote=Jet][quote=Jhoijhoi] All I have to say is: Your Gangplank guide. He's DPS. Crit DPS. And you built him with Shurelya's Reverie. And why did you do that? To support your team. What item do I have in my Ashe build that supports my team? Stark's. I have no idea why you were so bitter with your review of my guide, when you made a guide for Gangplank, who is very typically DPS/Crit and people get criticised for not building DPS/Crit. I just don't understand you at all. Also. Two Philosopher's Stones. "Why would you get PS when it'd delay your Infinity Edge?" Sound familiar? That's because that's what you said to me. I really. Really. REALLY don't understand you. At all. Just wow. [/quote][/quote]

[quote=Booshido]lolololol.[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]That was a cool game, was mid with Master Yi against Vlad. First Blood and three consecutive kils later I was lvl 7 when he was lvl 3 . Since then it was just gg. Master Yi is just OP mid. [img=http://imageshack.us/m/405/7762/bigfedyiyi.jpg][/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi][quote="jet"] you're really dumb gangplank requires regen so he can spam his deny and parrrley because parrrley gives him extra gold and denying is all he is good for early on starks is shit, shurelya's is not gangplank is not ashe, gangplank is the fastest gold farmer in the game, you need the regen so you can get that gold ashe doesn't need regen to last hit, she has a built in gold enhancer and auto attacks for last hits i was right when i said you were retarded: this message makes you seem like a 100 elo player btw: your new ashe build is even shittier than the old one and the old one was shit cya[/quote] Considering I wrote that comment when Gangplank was still DenyPlank? And I was trying to make the point that champions who spam moves as carries can make use of Philosopher's Stones? Because Gangplank is a crit-based hero and so is Ashe, and yet you recommended Philo Stones? That your guide recommended a support item, and mine did as well, and yet Ashe isn't allowed to buy support items for the team? I was drawing parallels between our two guides? I guess the sarcasm fell through your logic gates. Maybe I should have said it like this to avoid any possible confusion: 1) You made a Gangplank guide with Philosopher's Stone. I made an Ashe guide with Philosopher's Stone. 2) Ashe and Gangplank both are commonly built to utilise their Critical Strike chances as their main damage sources (Ashe's auto attacks, Gangplank's Parrley). 3) You suggested a support item for Gangplank. I suggested a support item for Ashe. Both champions are considered carries, not support. 4) Your guide suggests buying Infinity Edge. My guide suggests buying Infinity Edge. Both guides suggest Philosopher's Stone, ie possibly delaying that Infinity Edge. [quote="jet"]your 9 utility is weak, get regeneration, ghost, exp and greed for extra gold and stronger solo laning. the fact you say greed is useless but 1 extra point of mana is better, makes me feel like you don't know how to build masteries.[/quote] Perseverance increases your health and mana regeneration by 4% by it's final level. All champions have a natural health and mana regeneration rate. Ashe has 14.4 health regen per 5, an 13.5 mana regen per 5 AT LEVEL 18. At the beginning of the game, she has 5 health per 5, and 6.7 mana per 5. Now. What's 4% of 5? 0.2. 0.2 extra mana per 5 seconds. After 25 seconds, I have ONE extra mana point to use. What's 4% of 6.7? 0.268. Ashe now actually gets 7 health regeneration per 5 seconds. That's the reason why Perseverance on Ashe is not great, and a waste of Mastery Points. One point in Mediation at first level actually increases Ashe's mana regeneration per 5 seconds by 1? Instead of wasting 3 Mastery Points in Mana/Health regeneration (Perseverance), I could get one point in Mediation and get the same effect. Jet, your comment about Perseverance on Ashe is the whole reason why I responded unfavourably towards you, and it made me believe YOU were 100 Elo player. Honestly, getting Perseverance on Ashe? [quote="jebus mcazn"]Jet made an error on the Perseverance vs Good Hands mastery, I feel - yes, continue to run Good Hands. He's a troll on the forums at times, and he's harsh and blunt and quite often crass, but he's also honest[/quote] The only reason why I even listened to you was because of Jebus, so I guess you have him to thank.[/quote]