7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=Janitsu][quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]I'm pretty sure the same thing happens with AD Ez as well. His waveclear still isn't very good he still offers no CC unless people get Iceborn Gauntlet on him, but that means that he does absolutely no damage midgame. And he still gets countered by assassins.[/quote] Well his waveclear is better, by far at least. He also has something else to rely on than abilities ([[Ezreal]]'s W is easily dodgeable, if he uses E to get close to you, you can usually 100-0 him easily and his ult is dodgeable and if you use it during a fight, chances are you'll die during the cast time.)[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=Electro522]Maybe when 5.4 rolls around, Morde will finally be put on this list. I mean, come on, you even have Yorick on this list!!! A champ that shouldn't even be in the game!!![/quote] Except that [[Yorick]] is actually a decent champion that provides something to a team.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Having played both AD and AP Ezreal mid a bunch, AD is easily far stronger. AP Ezreal is sorta viable but it's more of a fun build because of how many weaknesses it has. AD Ezreal actually has the ability to waveclear since his autos and his Q actually deal damage and he can easily cs at tower, plus once he has Tear he shouldn't ever run out of mana. AP Ezreal is just straight up screwed because he does no damage to minions with anything but E and R. AP Ezreal is all burst and has low damage over time if you can't get the kill, whereas AD Ezreal has lots of damage over time and if you build Triforce it still has a lot of burst. I don't like [[iceborn gauntlet]] over Triforce because it greatly reduces your burst and overall damage, it means you can't make plays or 1v1 as easily in midgame. [[muramana]] + [[trinity force]] is a crazy strong powerspike.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=Electro522]Maybe when 5.4 rolls around, Morde will finally be put on this list. I mean, come on, you even have Yorick on this list!!! A champ that shouldn't even be in the game!!![/quote] Except that [[Yorick]] is actually a decent champion that provides something to a team.[/quote] Uh, so does Morde? Morde can easily pubstomp up to gold (and probably above, honestly). And a lategame Morde absolutely preys on people (especially ADC) out of position. He's also a pretty decent option against Zed splitpush. Although I perfectly understand why he's not on this list, cause his early and mid game are absolute shit.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=Nighthawk][quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=Electro522]Maybe when 5.4 rolls around, Morde will finally be put on this list. I mean, come on, you even have Yorick on this list!!! A champ that shouldn't even be in the game!!![/quote] Except that [[Yorick]] is actually a decent champion that provides something to a team.[/quote] Although I perfectly understand why he's not on this list, cause his early and mid game are absolute shit.[/quote] Actually his early and lategame are shit, is midgame is good. And his early game is great against almost any champion if the enemy jungler is an ass/afk[/quote]

[quote=Electro522]From what I have learned, the first 3 levels for Morde are the toughest. After that, it gets much easier. Reasons to include Morde on this list, and put him around low tier two to mid tier 3 for top lane. - Quite possibly the best 2v1 champ at lvl 6, and he can still do decently before hand. - Can turn a 5v5 into a 6v4 very easily if his team cooperates. - Can function to a decent degree without kills due to his awesome wave clear. - Can duel pretty much anyone, and come out on top 80% of the time. - Can survive an onslaught of damage, much more then most people expect. Please, please, PLEASE reconsider him!!! You guys are focusing WAY too much on his negatives, and making them look as if they completely cripple him! Is he the best? No, not at all, but he still deserves to be on this list, ESPECIALLY if Yorick gets to be on this list.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=Blian]And why do players build AD [[Ezreal]] at mid? I mean wouldn't it make more sense to build AP because of the insane dmg you can do?[/quote]Because double adc is op.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]One thing i dont agree with is Annie and Morg below nami. Nami i would personally put in tier 2 just above braum.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=Cooper112]One thing i dont agree with is Annie and Morg below nami. Nami i would personally put in tier 2 just above braum.[/quote][[Nami]] is way more variable than either of them, plus only a few things counter her really hard. She's not the [i]best[/i] support in the game anymore, but she's definitely still tier one imo. Both [[Annie]] and [[Morgana]] are easier to counter than [[Nami]] and they aren't consistently good in nearly any composition.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=Cooper112]One thing i dont agree with is Annie and Morg below nami. Nami i would personally put in tier 2 just above braum.[/quote][[Nami]] is way more variable than either of them, plus only a few things counter her really hard. She's not the [i]best[/i] support in the game anymore, but she's definitely still tier one imo. Both [[Annie]] and [[Morgana]] have more counters then [[Nami]] and they aren't consistently good in nearly any composition.[/quote]If your a good support players you can also make more plays or picks with annie or morg. If i wanted to carry as a support i would take them two any day over nami.[/quote]