7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=TheRealCefor]Oh shit!!! We talking about Veigar?! Sure he is dead at support but why the fuk was he supporting in the first place? But that .75 second (estimated speed of a human blinking) is somewhat a nerf but it's sure to scare the living hell out of anyone who didn't calculate being trapped in the most unforgiving box in the game.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]They're giving him the 0.75 second warning before the E appears, which is a nerf against anyone with good mobilty. And considering that the stun is the only thing Support Veigar does, it's going to hit him the hardest. As for mid lane Veigar as long as they give me an opportunity to dodge Event Horizon I don't care how overpowered he is.[/quote] At same time his q is easier to farm and he does better in lane hes is a scaling of nasus with easy lane now.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=TheRealCefor]But that .75 second (estimated speed of a human blinking)[/quote] It takes between 300 to 400 milliseconds (0.3-0.4s) to blink.[/quote]

[quote=Darealone]How come [[kassadin]] isn't counter picked into [[rumble]]? Just purely based off of the Q shield.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=Darealone]How come [[kassadin]] isn't counter picked into [[rumble]]? Just purely based off of the Q shield.[/quote] Cooldowns likely. It's likely still a pretty free lane for [[Rumble]]. A good one, that is.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=Darealone]How come [[kassadin]] isn't counter picked into [[rumble]]? Just purely based off of the Q shield.[/quote] Cooldowns likely. It's likely still a pretty free lane for [[Rumble]]. A good one, that is.[/quote] According to http://champion.gg/champion/Rumble Kass is one best win rates vs rumble but thing is rumble does not seem have any bad match ups really as long as your good at him. Actually Kennen might be the counter to rumble not sure does he not out lane him? I know this tier list rates Kennen very lowly but he is played in EU lcs alot.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]Irelia does pretty well against rumble. Kennen is pretty 50/50 vs him. Kassadin gets dumped.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=H4xDefender]Irelia does pretty well against rumble. Kennen is pretty 50/50 vs him. Kassadin gets dumped.[/quote]She still loses more than she wins that link i posts take ranked games win %. Also this is Platinum+ games so you cant say its just bunch of bronze noobs who cant play the matchup.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]cooper you can't judge a matchup by fucking winrate when they are against eachother in soloqueue rofl.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=H4xDefender]cooper you can't judge a matchup by fucking winrate when they are against eachother in soloqueue rofl.[/quote] Sure you can win rate means your more likely to win if you lost on that champion it means you failed to carry so its not a good matchup. Besides that rumble is broken even vs IRE you can win and easily out lane her.[/quote]