Garen needs Buff

[quote=NicknameMy]I think, Garen needs a Buff. He scales with his spin very badly in lategame, Autoattaks deal sometimes more dmg... Only pure ad gives some reasonable dmg output, but this would make Garen die easily. If I could give a suggestion i would say, that the AD-ratio of Judgment should be changed, it's damage should be increased by all of Garen's AD or something like an 1,5-2,0 AD Ratio on Bonus Damage. Do you think the same?[/quote]

[quote=Zeprido]Riot is currently looking into this, and comparing him to other tanky DPS champs. Depending how he is, they will either bring him in line with the rest, or bring the rest in line with him.[/quote]

[quote=ShadowReign757]No. Just no. His AD ratios are where they are because he is an early game champion. Going into late game isn't supposed to happen on Garen, which is why his early damage is absolutely insane. IMO the only way, right now anyways, to bring Garen into being a late game champion is to tank with him, but even that isn't an amazing way to play him. EDIT: If Riot is looking into this, I hope they put others where he is. It'd be interesting to see how it affects the metagame.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]But we have to say, Garen is underpowered in the difference to other tanky dps, such like Renekton. If they don't nerf the others, Garen's ratios must be buffed. Maybe get him back to the power of old days^^.[/quote]

[quote=Xiaowiriamu]No thanks, although hes not really being picked as much as he used to (haha sunfire stacking) hes still strong, and does relatively great damage whilst also surviving a lot.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]I think his early through late game is amazing AD or tanky.[/quote]

[quote=Booshido]you guys cant build him right is all :] early game spin to win, mid game tank, late game, off tank crit chance/high ad =)[/quote]

[quote=Jvstm][quote=ShadowReign757] No. Just no. His AD ratios are where they are because he is an early game champion. Going into late game isn't supposed to happen on Garen, which is why his early damage is absolutely insane. IMO the only way, right now anyways, to bring Garen into being a late game champion is to tank with him, but even that isn't an amazing way to play him. EDIT: If Riot is looking into this, I hope they put others where he is. It'd be interesting to see how it affects the metagame. [/quote] AD Garen with Sunfire, Frozen Hammer and Atma's scales incredibly well into late game. He's a terrible tank. Build AD/HP with Atma's, though, and you'll eat their teams. [[boots of swiftness]] [[frozen mallet]] [[sunfire cape]] [[Atma's impaler]] [[infinity edge]] [[last whisper]] Number one Garen build, IMO.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Jvstm] AD Garen with Sunfire, Frozen Hammer and Atma's scales incredibly well into late game. He's a terrible tank. Build AD/HP with Atma's, though, and you'll eat their teams. [[boots of swiftness]] [[frozen mallet]] [[sunfire cape]] [[Atma's impaler]] [[infinity edge]] [[last whisper]] Number one Garen build, IMO.[/quote] NO! This will not turn into another "how to build Garen" thread! Bad Jvstm! >:[[/quote]

[quote=animorte]Last 'Garen is free' week was horrible. Every time I faced a Garen, he owned me. Why? Because I think there is a glitch on him of some sort. Using Kennen almost all those games against him, I could not stun him close range...at all. At a distance was no problem. But if he was close, I would just stack 3 marks (no stun) and then stack 3 more marks (still no stun). It was the same thing with Taric. If he was far away, I successfully stunned him. If he was right beside me, no stun. No Cleanse or Quicksilver was ever involved. He was just completely immune to all stuns at close range. Yes, QQ Anyways, I think Garen has sufficient damage all throughout the game. I believe he is what one would call a bruiser, taking damage well while still being able to put it out.[/quote]