Poppy Rework discussion

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=MungoGeri]But it's easier to have you do all the work. Seriously, I wouldn't have thought of [[tristana]]'s jump as a dash, so the situation is not as clear as it may seem.[/quote] If you're instantly moved from A to B without seeing the entire movement animation (Shaco's [[deceive]], Ezreal's [[arcane shift]], [[flash]], Kassadin's [[riftwalk]]) that is a blink. If you see the movement through the animation ([[quickdraw]], jumps, Fizz' Q, Diana's ult, Ahri's ult, Lee Sin's W, Xin's E, etc etc etc) then it's a dash[/quote]

[quote=Ekki][quote=Sarixis]Overall I like that her kit isn't an overloaded mess like what the majority of new champions get. Design-wise it's pretty straight-forward, feels fun to use, and has decent numbers atm.[/quote]This. It's a decent kit which, when compared with the previous one, makes it stand as a great rework. They took the clusterfuck it was before and updated it, only "losing" her ult, which is a clusterfuck by itself. The new Q might be bland, but the old one was even worse, and it's not that bad to have one bland ability in the kit. The new ult is interesting, unique and with a sensible skill ladder (lots of space to do it better, but easy to use in the first game) without being a forced minigame. The old one was so focused in the "little ball of hate" fantasy that it felt awful to play against and didn't have a clear optimisation pattern. It was forever doomed to either not work or be broken and I'm glad Rito had the balls to take it away. I like the general direction on the visuals/character side, although I agree that the in-game model looks odd (dat arrowhead jawline) and some VO lines are too forced. I didn't know it was the first one with facial expressions. Some stuff looked cool, especially for a first time, although I would have to confirm that in-game. The uncanny valley is hard to avoid when working with 3D models in games, even more so if it's a non-human antropomorphic model, so I can't judge it too hard. I really hope they fix some stuff there though.[/quote]

[quote=Ekki]Also, on a side note, I really liked the way they handled the lollipoppy memes. If they didn't include a reference, it would have been lackluster, but keeping the creepy effect on her would have been counterproductive to the whole idea of the rework. Fortunately they found a sweet middle ground to creep us out in a subtle way.[/quote]

[quote=Re4XN]I thought [[rengar]] had facial expressions as well, I always see his mouth moving when talking. Am I seeing things?[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]His mouth moves when he says some lines but he has no expressions. Poppy's face actually expresses emotion. It's pretty weird looking. Uncanny valley.[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher]Her W seems interesting considering Lee Sin, Leblanc, Ahri, Azir, Diana, Graves, Shen, Maybe nocturne? Her W will jack up 20% of the cast.[/quote]

[quote=RottedApples]I think that her q, despite being basic is a solid ability with just enough uniqueness to not be a big deal (graves and vel'koz are the only similarities i can think of) an ability doesn't have to be 1 of a kind for it to make a champion unique and fun.[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher][quote=RottedApples]I think that her q, despite being basic is a solid ability with just enough uniqueness to not be a big deal (graves and vel'koz are the only similarities i can think of) an ability doesn't have to be 1 of a kind for it to make a champion unique and fun.[/quote] I disagree strongly. If a champ has nothing unique or interesting, she's not unique. Hence bland shitstain new [[karma]] (still salty about this one). And the fact that she's just a mage makes her less fun.[/quote]

[quote=MungoGeri][quote=throatslasher]Her W seems interesting considering Lee Sin, Leblanc, Ahri, Azir, Diana, Graves, Shen, Maybe nocturne? Her W will jack up 20% of the cast.[/quote] [[vayne]] ults and then [[poppy]] stops her from tumbling...[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][[Kalista]], nuff said. Passive is fine, just the interaction with [[iceborn gauntlet]]+[[dead man's plate]] seems a bit strong for such a champion. I feel like her Q should deal damage in an area of 1 [[teemo]] around her plus the current "range". First, this would with "[[Poppy]]" and second, it makes the spell way more consistant and doesn't allow enemies to super easily dodge it even by walking through [[poppy]]. Her W feels a bit to strong if used well, I mean, if that is around, nearly nothing can happen to a well positioned ADC. Her E got a lot stronger as well, demn permastuns in the jungle. And her R? Intitation and Disengage in one? What else could you want! High damage? As well into it![/quote]