Super big Patch hit PBE

[quote=NicknameMy]http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/26226-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-10-31-2013-nasus-vu http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Emptylord/PBE_Status New items, new masteries, new jungle, etc, etc, etc... The new season is coming. The most important change for me is obviously this: [[Taric]] [[Gemcraft]] New Passive: After using an ability, Taric's next basic attack deals (40% armor) as bonus magic damage and reduces his ability cooldowns by 2 seconds. [[Imbue]] Cooldown lowered to 18 / 17 / 16 / 15 / 14 from 20 / 19 / 18 / 17 / 16. Cost lowered to 60 / 80 / 100 / 120 / 140 from 80 / 95 / 110 / 125 / 140. AP ratio lowered to 30% from 60%. Added (+5% Taric's bonus health) scaling. Cooldown reduction on autoattacks removed (moved to passive). [[Shatter]] Damage changed to 40 / 80 / 120 / 160 / 200 (+50% armor) from 50 / 90 / 130 / 170 / 210 (+60% AP)(+20% armor). [[Dazzle]] AP ratio lowered to 20-40% from 40-80%. Cooldown increased 18 / 17 / 16 / 15 / 14 from 14 / 13 / 12 / 11 / 10. [[Radiance]] AP ratio lowered to 50% from 70%. Cooldown increased to 75 seconds from 60 seconds. Taric jungle is now really really strong! And finally, I can drop all dat mana. And also, finally, Wards are limited, something I mentioned already in S1 to happen. The Vision Ward change is great aswell. And no longer goddamn oracle. (Okay, there is something different which is way better)[/quote]

[quote=-NA- Veng Lmfao]I didn't read much of it, but I love the biscuiteer tweak. Idk why but this just seemed really exciting even though it's incredibly minor.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]This is only the first part of the patch at PBE, masteries, runes and I would say even more is still missing.[/quote]

[quote=Ninja Trigger]Still for not being all of the changes for season 4 there sure are a lot of them.[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh]Dunno how I feel about that [[taric]] change... I had my bruiser build just the way I wanted it. Meh. He's now forced into buying armor, which is somewhat good because being forced into buying mana wasn't so hot either. But mana gem dude worked against any team comp, whereas now he will suck going against heavy AP, because he needs tons of armor to be effective. His itemization needs seem funky... He needs armor to make passive and W work. He needs AP for everything else but his ratios are poor (but base is decent) so he can't really burst. He's melee and gets AD+AP from ulti so you should get some AS as well. Armor > MPen > AS > AP? I'm looking at [[iceborn gauntlet]] as core probably. Seems like his passive was made for this item. He needs an Armor version of [[wit's end]], honestly.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]His heal now scales with maximum HP, which makes [[sunfire cape]] and [[randuin's omen]] very effective. Combined with [[spirit visage]], you will heal yourself for a super big amount. Now the question is, [[thornmail]] or [[iceborn gauntlet]]. [[thornmail]] gives that super cheap 100 armor and [[iceborn gauntlet]] the passive. At the end, you will reach around 400 armor and a 45 armor aura with 3,5k HP. He doesn't profit that much from AS anymore, as the AD from his ulti is for him basically worthless and the passive only works after an ability.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]There will be absolutely no point in jungling him. His clear already sucked and they nerfed the base damage on Shatter, AGAIN. And his bonus magic damage is now only on skill use instead of just every attack. These changes actually suck major D, and I don't expect anyone attempting to support with him either. Shitty damage, gets harassed easily, shitty mana management, a godawful passive he likely cant even utilize in lane. Riot needs to just leave Taric alone or give him a full rework.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=OTGBionicArm] There will be absolutely no point in jungling him. His clear already sucked and they nerfed the base damage on Shatter, AGAIN. And his bonus magic damage is now only on skill use instead of just every attack. These changes actually suck major D, and I don't expect anyone attempting to support with him either. Shitty damage, gets harassed easily, shitty mana management, a godawful passive he likely cant even utilize in lane. Riot needs to just leave Taric alone or give him a full rework. [/quote] they buffed his shatter damage at level 1 since you'll likely want into the jungle with 40-50ish armor, far more than the ap you would normally have.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]luizdeh brings up an interesting point. In S4, riot wanted a lot of the supports to not be locked into one buildpath, especially with some of the peculiar changes that are being thrown around with supports & AP ratios. It seems like taric is the odd one out, in that he kinda needs to itemize armor in order to really be effective - whereas other supports (like, janna) may be able to itemize AP OR CDR.[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh][quote=Nighthawk] they buffed his shatter damage at level 1 since you'll likely want into the jungle with 40-50ish armor, far more than the ap you would normally have. [/quote] So, you go into the jungle with 40 armor and lv1 [[shatter]], k? You now do 60 magic damage every 10 seconds, you now have 30 armor instead but you deal more damage for 4 seconds. Doesn't seem effective. [b]EDIT[/b]: forgot about the other part of the passive. AA immediately after W makes it go every 8 seconds, even less so when you start levelling up. Might be doable. At 40% CDR, you can more or less chain skills, seeing that [[shatter]] should be at a 6 sec CD, 4 sec after AA with passive, 2 sec after Q or E, and be up again after that. This also makes [[iceborn gauntlet]] a must have, due to AA buff, mana for spammage, CDR and armor. @NicknameMy: His heal has 5% bonus health scaling, which honestly makes for a huge investment in HP but the return is decent. You get [[randuin's omen]], [[sunfire cape]] and [[spirit visage]] and heal for something like 345 HP. Discounting masteries and runes which boost it even more. But IMO, he's gonna need just too many stats to do anything other than being a pain in the ass for AD champs. The more I think about it the less I like it. It's like they're trying to enforce him to go absolute meat shield/aura bot that deals weirdly mixed damage... Also, I didn't include CDR in my stats because it's a given. His AA is enhanced per ability use, so he needs to be spammy. Just one more stat to make him work. Nevertheless, gonna try him top lane for sure. Hey, I keep running [[olaf]] and other shit, why not be fabulous sometimes? Also, [[trinity force]]+full tank Pink [[taric]]. If you see me, run... laughing.[/quote]