Super big Patch hit PBE

[quote=NicknameMy]Remember, i use CDR glyphs on him and start with 17,5% CDR. This puts [[Shatter]] on a so low CD combined with the passive, that it is really spammable and makes a good clearspeed. I would also say the new passive is better for jungling as it is more focused damage, which is better against a big creep and a few small. And, if you use the passive multiple times, thanks to your heal, it is way more effective than the old passive. Base CD: 10 seconds CDR of ~20% > 8 seconds > Passive > 6 seconds > Passive with heal > 4 seconds CDR of ~30% with blue buff > 7 seconds > Passive > 5 seconds > Passive with heal > 3 seconds! As for a build, I overcap CDR again, but this time, it is at least 20% less [items=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/item-purchase-planner#&item=151-27-27-27-27-27-168-86-42-165-150-56-57-102] Trinket: [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131101031916/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/6/6c/Sweeping_Lens_item.jpg/20px-Sweeping_Lens_item.jpg[/img]Sweeping Lens, should be used on any jungler as [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131101032803/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/7/78/Oracle%27s_Lens_item.jpg/20px-Oracle%27s_Lens_item.jpg[/img]Orcale's Lens allows to destroy wards, which is a must have if you want to gank effectively. Just readed this: [[Madred's Bloodrazor]] Will be returning to the store as an item for DPS Junglers. New Passive: Basic attacks deal bonus damage based on the number of jungle camps cleared. I mean just, WTF? Master Yi, you are gonna be crazy???[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh]You know what I hate the most about League? The theorycrafting is addictive and non-stop with all these changes. I know it's my fault, but goddamn... Well here's my take: a 3.7k HP bruiser with 39% CDR, ~500 armor, ~150 MR, ~400 MS freak of a champ. LMAO. With this build, the passive hits for 196.4 extra damage, the aura gets ~60 armor, [[shatter]] goes up to ~445 damage, Q heals for ~400 (with ulti) and gauntlet passive adds another ~230 dmg (again with ulti). [[mercury's treads]] with [[enchantment: furor]]. Tenacity, some MR and stickyness. [[iceborn gauntlet]]. Because. [[sunfire cape]]. Because I have MPen on runes and masteries. [[spirit visage]]. Because health, MR, more heals. [[randuin's omen]]. Because health, damage, armor, slow. [[thornmail]]. Because I can and it's way too funny with MPen. Aura bot style: never use W, stun carries, stand in the middle of everything and spam laugh. I had fun with this, in theory at least.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=luizdeh] You know what I hate the most about League? The theorycrafting is addictive and non-stop with all these changes. I know it's my fault, but goddamn... [/quote] The constant changes and meta shifts are what keep the game interesting. It is a brilliant 'marketing' strategy. For example, a couple of IRL friends of mine and myself used to play shooters all the time. However, we all stopped playing them after the second orthird sequel of the game which only brought little changes (Modern Warfare series). You need a game to keep developing onward if you want people to stick with your game![/quote]

[quote=luizdeh][quote=Vynertje] The constant changes and meta shifts are what keep the game interesting. It is a brilliant 'marketing' strategy. [/quote] QFT. The thing is, it's kind of a double-edged sword for people like me. Sometimes I just feel like I'm wasting time theorycrafting shit because things change a lot. I like doing it, but it keeps changing, so eventually me liking it actually bothers me, ya know? No? K, no problem, to each his own weirdness.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]To expand a bit on my post [embed=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e31OSVZF77w] And yeah I agree, but hey, aren't your wasting your time playing this game overall?[/quote]

[quote=Bioalchemist]been watching trick2g in the jungle this morning on PBE with new patch....looks like games are going to be dragged out longer...can't attack inhibitors unless entire minion wave is pushed out. no more xpeke.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]i never said he was going to be good at jungle or even doable, just that shatter did more damage at rank 1, lol.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=luizdeh] (...)and gauntlet passive adds another ~230 dmg (again with ulti). [/quote] What? Gauntlet doesn't get damage off your AD. Only base AD is splashed in that slow.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]THEY'RE BRINGING BACK PILLAGER? FUCK YES OH GOD PLEASE. so much better than that shitty black cleaver (because pillager was actually a ad caster item, unlike cleaver which was good on everyone who dealt phys)[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Lord Van Damm's Pillager total cost lowered to 2882g from 2962g (not likely to be returning) Reread pls[/quote]