Throatslasher AMA, general AP mid convo thread

[quote=DillButt64][quote=tehAsian] Write AP [[karma]] mid guide? [/quote] ^^^ also this[/quote]

[quote=Xenotechie][quote=throatslasher] [quote=Xenotechie] Soo... what's your opinion on [[Viktor]]? I know you said in the past you want Ahri if you like his abilities or something like that, but can you elaborate on this? What I see in [[Viktor]] is a REALLY long range laser that is deceptively hard to dodge, an AoE CC and and AoE ulti that provides tons of damage. Oh, yeah, he has that shield thingy, but it is too slow for the laning phase IMHO. I don't really see how does that compare to [[Ahri]], or why is she better. [/quote] I think the general consesus on viktor is that he sucks. I've played him multiple times, and I have the same issues with him as everyone else. His kit is extremely underwhelming, and it's compounded by a plethora of other problems. pros: laser is good, ult is good cons: no mobility, short range on his q and cc, unreliable cc, ult disappears if he dies, CAN ONLY HAVE 5 ITEMS Viktor is ok, and he's pretty unique, but I'd much rather pick safer mids that are almost guaranteed to have more of an impact on a teamfight. Viktor's non-laser spells have very short range, putting him in harm's way when he tries to do damage. If you want to play him, that's awesome. I'm all for unconventional mids. But to say that he doesn't have HUGE GLARING FLAWS means that you're naive, or blinded by shiny laser. I love karma mid, but she has HUGE GLARING FLAWS, so i don't pick her when i'm in tryhard mode. Ahri is better because she's practically unkillable in teamfights, if you play her right. she has 4 flashes! Also, she has an easy-to-hit 2 second single target cc, better aoe, better sustained damage, and oh yeah, it's impossible to kill her in teamfights! She CAN also have a dominant lane phase if you hit a couple combos. She has built in sustain, escapes, aoe, true damage, HARD CC, and more. what else could you ask for? [/quote] I dunno, he just kinda fits my playstyle perfectly. Still, thanks for the input, but it won't stop me from playing him.[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher]I never said you shouldn't. Be the best viktor NA and get on tsm.[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher]The problem with writing an ap karma mid guide is that i'll never overtake the #1 karma guide, what's the point? after 2 weeks my guide will be buried and forgotten.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]So, why no DFG on Swain? It it because he outranges it? Is it because tankier AP stuff is better? Is it because he doesn't use all the stats well enough? I don't build it but, it seems like it works well with his kit because of the 20% damage amp on his E. Secondly, what is the strongest AP mid in your opinion? I'm looking to be able to cover all lanes decently and right now, I can play odd mids like Soraka and the like but not good, traditional mids. Who would be a good starter and why?[/quote]

[quote=Xenotechie][quote=throatslasher] The problem with writing an ap karma mid guide is that i'll never overtake the #1 karma guide, what's the point? after 2 weeks my guide will be buried and forgotten. [/quote] Wait till it expires. The guy who made it was completely inactive for almost a month now. It will take, like, 3 months max for this to happen if this keeps up. Of course, you can always try to go for second place, 84% is not that hard to break.[/quote]

[quote=Clu Gulager]Throatslasher I like the new you better.[/quote]

[quote=Anastasios]Blitzcrank on top/jungle. Viable?[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher][quote=Lugignaf] So, why no DFG on Swain? It it because he outranges it? Is it because tankier AP stuff is better? Is it because he doesn't use all the stats well enough? I don't build it but, it seems like it works well with his kit because of the 20% damage amp on his E. Secondly, what is the strongest AP mid in your opinion? I'm looking to be able to cover all lanes decently and right now, I can play odd mids like Soraka and the like but not good, traditional mids. Who would be a good starter and why? [/quote] When I play swain, I itemize him to give myself a greater impact during teamfights. That includes, a mixture of ap, resists, spell penetration, base mana, health, and spell vamp. DFG is kind of like, i'm going to all in YOU. I think it would be ok, and it definitely warrants some playtesting, but I much prefer ROA and WOTA for mid game teamfights to boost my survivability, and ultimately, my damage. Some mids are good for solo queue, and some mids are good for teams, but the best of both worlds is morgana. You can't go wrong with morg. She's borderline uncounterable, safe, and she fits with any teamcomp. Morgana is also easy to play. Once you get the hang of hitting long range through-the-fog snares, you're ready to go. You should refer to my gp10 guide for my morg build and strategy. ------------------------------------- "Wait till it expires. The guy who made it was completely inactive for almost a month now. It will take, like, 3 months max for this to happen if this keeps up. Of course, you can always try to go for second place, 84% is not that hard to break." I have a feeling that once the 20 vote limit is up, it'll get downvoted to oblivion like my gp10 guide. ---------------------------------------- "Throatslasher I like the new you better." Thanks, i'm trying. Just going to ignore what I don't like instead of letting it raise my blood pressure.[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher][quote=Anastasios] Blitzcrank on top/jungle. Viable? [/quote] Yes. but there's a difference between viable and optimal. Is blitz top optimal and viable? kind of. nobody does what he does, and he can dominate top with skill, but he can also fall flat on his face. Jungle? viable, yes, but not optimal. I would much rather have a naut jungle than a blitz jungle. They are extremely similar, but naut has a much faster clear-time, and his health stays higher. Blitz has much better ganks with overdrive+powerfist, though.[/quote]