Throatslasher AMA, general AP mid convo thread

[quote=throatslasher]"Thanks, what are your thoughts on building a Black Cleaver on jungle Pantheon?" Never. BC sucks on pantheon. You really should not be auto attacking very much. "what are your opinions on talon mid, and is xerath still viable" talon is just ok, he's a total gamble. pantheon is more versatile than talon, but he can't push nearly as well. xerath is bad. nobody can convince me otherwise. Think about what xerath does. line nuke, if he hits his e and a spell, it stuns, long range, and his ult hits 3 times. Ahri has a line nuke, her e is a single target cc as well, she has another damage spell, and her ult hits three times and gives her 3 flashes.[/quote]

[quote=BlackIceT]Rank these champions in order of best for mid in ranked please: [[Brand]], [[Lux]], [[Kennen]], [[Cassiopeia]], [[Ahri]], [[Fizz]]. I know that [[Morgana]] is very good but considering how often she is banned at least in my elo I am not putting her on that list. If she is un-banned I play her but that is rare.[/quote]

[quote=Syther Blade]Do you think Xerath is decent at least an AD mid though, pick up Cloth armor and Amplifying tomb, AP quints and armor yellows and you'll have a good amount of early game armor due to your passive[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher][quote=BlackIceT] Rank these champions in order of best for mid in ranked please: [[Brand]], [[Lux]], [[Kennen]], [[Cassiopeia]], [[Ahri]], [[Fizz]]. I know that [[Morgana]] is very good but considering how often she is banned at least in my elo I am not putting her on that list. If she is un-banned I play her but that is rare. [/quote] 1. ahri 2. kennen 3. brand 4. fizz 5. lux i'm not going to rate cassio, as she's entirely dependent on how skillful you are with her. she can win any matchup if you're a totally sick ass cassio, which I personally am not.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]what about [[zyra]]? still op?[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=throatslasher] "Thanks, what are your thoughts on building a Black Cleaver on jungle Pantheon?" Never. BC sucks on pantheon. You really should not be auto attacking very much. [/quote] Why not, it increases your clear times + dragon control + overall damage and helps out your adc a lot? I've never tried it, but it seems that if you're buying berzerker greaves to increase your clear time, you might as well skip greaves and just get a semi early tbc.[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher][quote=Nighthawk] [quote=throatslasher] "Thanks, what are your thoughts on building a Black Cleaver on jungle Pantheon?" Never. BC sucks on pantheon. You really should not be auto attacking very much. [/quote] Why not, it increases your clear times + dragon control + overall damage and helps out your adc a lot? I've never tried it, but it seems that if you're buying berzerker greaves to increase your clear time, you might as well skip greaves and just get a semi early tbc. [/quote] by the time you finish a black cleaver in a typical build, you shouldn't be worrying about your cleartimes. Also, for a couple hundred more gold, you can get bloodthirster, which is way better in teamfights. the 15 attack speed and armor shred are pointless, because pantheon isn't an auto attacker. zyra still kinda OP. her kit is strong, her damage is manageable.[/quote]