Who IS the best offtank in the game?

[quote=TheJohn][quote=Luther3000] [quote=TheJohn] [quote=Joobieo] [quote=TheJohn] [quote=PsiGuard] Best Lane: [[Renekton]], [[Yorick]], [[Sion]] Best Damage: [[Tryndamere]], [[Gangplank]], [[Olaf]], [[Riven]], [[Jax]] Best Tanks: [[Cho'Gath]], [[Malphite]], [[Singed]], [[Galio]], [[Maokai]] Best Utility: [[Lee Sin]], [[Wukong]] Best Scaling: [[Nasus]] Purely my own opinion of course. [/quote] But Tryndamere is not an offtank, neither is GP [/quote] Atmas + Warmogs = Offtank. Which is how GP is usually built these days. [/quote] I think Thornmail + FoN is more offtanksh than Atmogs [/quote] Noooooooo, lol. [[Thornmail]] is terrible. [[Force of Nature]] is good but gives you no health. [/quote] I know Thornmail is bad, but if Atmogs makes the champion offtank, I'm going to say that name Or I can change the phrase I think Randuins + FoN is more offtanksh than Atmogs[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Randuin's is okay, I just don't think much else can compare to atmogs right now on [i]most[/i] offtanks. Some of them are better off using something like [[Wit's End]], [[Frozen Heart]] or [[Randuin's Omen]] and [[Force of Nature]], but not all that many.[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn]Atmogs is expensive, but its good since few people can play decently as a sustain damage dealer BTW, why doesnt RIOT get rid of some items that people dont buy, or remake them? I've seen Leviathan once or twice only, sunfire is another terrible item late game[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Sunfire was alright before those last couple of nerfs. No idea why they nerfed the AoE damage down from 40 to 35, because it wasn't very popular even when it had 40.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=PsiGuard] Best Lane: [[Renekton]] Purely my own opinion of course. [/quote] Glad you added that disclaimer because my head just about exploded. [quote=TheJohn] I think Thornmail + FoN is more offtanksh than Atmogs [/quote] *Facepalm* [quote=TheJohn] I think Randuins + FoN is more offtanksh than Atmogs [/quote] *Facedesk* Offtank implies you're gonna do damage somehow, at least with perhaps a trinity Force.[/quote]

[quote=Samoh]There really is no specific 'Best Offtank' in the game, as many people have said before. Although if I had to have a favourite mine would be [[Lee Sin]]. Closely followed by [[Cho'gath]].[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I don't really consider Lee Sin to be an Offtank. I feel he's a "Tanky Assassin" personally.[/quote]

[quote=animorte]The main thing I hate about today's metagame is that you can't be a successful tank without Warmog's. Not too long ago I could just build the necessary defensive items and at least negate the incoming damage. Now, even enemies without penetration of any kind, you still drop pitifully easy unless it's 1v1, in which case you can't hardly do enough damage to make a difference anyway (unless you are Amumu or Malphite). The difference between Off-Tank and Tanky DPS... Off-Tanks can tank or deal damage with minimal effort either way, but need to put more effort into dealing damage. Tanky DPS are made to deal damage and already have base defensive stats necessary to keep them alive while they are doing so. They can tank, but it is not recommended since they do much better damage than they take anyway. I want to say Cho-Gath is one of the best Off-Tanks because his skill-set makes it too easy. He has great CC and still deals a bit of damage if you want him to. Trundle is good if you expect the enemy AD Carry to get fed, because he counters that like a boss.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=animorte] The main thing I hate about today's metagame is that you can't be a successful tank without Warmog's. [/quote] ಠ_ಠ You're obviously not playing a real tank then. I tank fine with Maokai. I build 1, maybe 2 health items. Neither of which are Warmogs because it detracts from other resists and gold I use for warding because of solo queue bads who don't ward.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Best 'I never die' champion: [[Warwick]] Best 'I'm tanky and do shitloads of damage' champion: Probably [[Nasus]] Best Mix: [[Sion]] Best Utility: [[Blitzcrank]] / [[Singed]] / [[Maokai]] Best Jungler: [[Rammus]] / [[Skarner]] / [[Udyr]] Best solo top: [[Olaf]] / [[Cho'Gath]] Best tanky dps: [[Tryndamere]] / [[Jax]] Best Tanky Assassin: [[Lee Sin]] I think I covered pretty well everyone. Purely imo ofc.[/quote]