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Introducing MFN: Prime & Commendation System!

Creator: Mowen February 23, 2016 12:50pm
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I'm not super excited for the system but since it doesn't take away from what we have and it might eventually give some benefits to content creators (even if marginal) I'm totally OK with it. It would be cool that content creators could get some revenue off their work, but IMO that's asking too much.

Now, having thought about it for a while something has me concerned. The initial amount of commendations is near zero, so it's really hard to start up the system properly. What if everyone over X posts/rep got one or two free commendations? You know, as to give some base pool of commendations. The initial free commendations could be a one time treat to avoid continual free generation or whatever else you can brainstorm.

Just my 5 cents.
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Meiyjhe wrote:

The biggest problem though is that payment can only done by creditcard and not by pin or any other online paying method. How can I support this website when I belong to the pin card masterrace? :3


Not sure what a "pin card" is but I agree that allowing payment through paypal or bitcoin etc would definitely make for more customers because (I don't mind) but many people will not want to pay by credit card.
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I also agree that the animation when scrolling down is horrendous, the scrolling down version should be on constantly because it looks more modern and slick while only losing the functionality of the social media buttons that nobody cares about anyway. I see no reason for there to be 2 separate bars when not scrolling down.
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Ekki wrote:
What if everyone over X posts/rep got one or two free commendations? You know, as to give some base pool of commendations. The initial free commendations could be a one time treat to avoid continual free generation or whatever else you can brainstorm.

I think this is a great idea ^^

Flash, I'm always looking forward to what MobaFire rolls out next! If I can think of anything else, I'll post here :)

Edit: Is there a way to view a list of commended guides/posts?
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XeresAce wrote:
it's ridiculously overpriced and it also lets people who pay dictate what is good and what is not... which I don't really agree with :/


From what I've read so far this seems to be my biggest gripe with the system. Any random 0 post/rep guy can get prime and just collapse all comments he randomly disagrees with. It's a feature I might like to be enabled for vets/mods but not for a paid system.

Aside from that, I'd like to see a system where you can pay a small amount monthly to disable all adds but without the whole commendation system. I personally like a tiered-system used by Dutch tech site Tweakers.net (https://secure.tweakers.net/aboshop/) where they have 5 tiers: 15, 25, 35, 50 and 250€ per year where each tiers gives some extra benefits, but without hindering the usability for non-paying users (which I do feel like this does as per above). Furthermore, I think one of the things Tweakers does well is framing it as a donation to the side instead of some kind of feature - MF is just looking for some extra ways to generate revenue.

For now, I don't think it will be worth it for anyone to pay 30€ per year because I the only useful purpose (at least to me) is to remove ads until there are some extra features to make it worth.
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^I think micro transactions are the way to go though. $30 a year seems like more than $3 a month, despite the latter being more expensive.
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Yeah considering commendations can be bought individually and are $4, and give the person you're commending A FREE MONTH of MFP, it seems a little pointless. Or maybe I'm just bitter because nobodies going to commend me.

Also, when it says collapse comments and sigs, I think that's just for the person with MFP. If you collapse something it's not like nobody on Mobafire is going to be able to see it, that's just daft.

(Also I might be being a bit stupid here but if you're running a website you can't just charge 30 whatever currency the people are using, $30 AUD is like 10 euros not even joking)

Basically MOBAFire.
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Ekki wrote:
What if everyone over X posts/rep got one or two free commendations? You know, as to give some base pool of commendations. The initial free commendations could be a one time treat to avoid continual free generation or whatever else you can brainstorm.


This seems to defeat the purpose a bit to me. Commendations are meant to be something special, not something every guide / every person gets. Also not sure what you mean by continual free generation?

Not sure what a "pin card" is but I agree that allowing payment through paypal or bitcoin etc would definitely make for more customers because (I don't mind) but many people will not want to pay by credit card.


We'll be sure to look into more ways to pay. I can't say right now if it will be feasible for us but we will keep it in mind. :)

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Is there a way to view a list of commended guides/posts?


Not at the moment. :( Would definitely be willing to look into this if people are interested!

Vynertje wrote:
Any random 0 post/rep guy can get prime and just collapse all comments he randomly disagrees with.


Not sure if there's some confusion here so I want to go ahead and clarify. You can only collapse comments on your own guide.

Vynertje wrote:
I'd like to see a system where you can pay a small amount monthly to disable all adds but without the whole commendation system.


Also not sure if this is clear enough, the Commendation system =/= Prime subscription, it's just a way to give Prime to other people and highlight content you think is really good.

Vynertje wrote:
I think one of the things Tweakers does well is framing it as a donation to the side instead of some kind of feature


If you read the post and comments this is very much what we are saying. :) We see it as a fun way to donate to the site or show your appreciation for someone.

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For now, I don't think it will be worth it for anyone to pay 30€ per year because I the only useful purpose (at least to me) is to remove ads until there are some extra features to make it worth.


What features would you like to see? :) Also I mention this below but I think it's supposed to be 30 USD across the board and not $30 (whatever your currency). I realize that 30 euros is a lot more than 30 USD.

Also, when it says collapse comments and sigs, I think that's just for the person with MFP. If you collapse something it's not like nobody on Mobafire is going to be able to see it, that's just daft.


You can only collapse comments on your own guide, and those are auto-collapsed for everyone that looks at it (you can reveal them by hitting the + button on them and read them). The sig hiding is only visible to yourself.

(Also I might be being a bit stupid here but if you're running a website you can't just charge 30 whatever currency the people are using, $30 AUD is like 10 euros not even joking)


I don't think this is how it works. When you click to buy it does it say your own currency? AFAIK it's supposed to all be in USD. If it's not I think it's a bug but will have to double-check.



Thanks again to everyone for the feedback / questions, keep it coming! :)
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Mowen wrote:
This seems to defeat the purpose a bit to me. Commendations are meant to be something special, not something every guide / every person gets. Also not sure what you mean by continual free generation?
Didn't explain myself properly, probably because I don't completely understand the relationship between commendations and prime. I understand that you don't get unlimited commendations as soon as you get prime, but how many per month do you get? Also, does getting prime via commendation give you free commendations? (I'm guessing not but I ask just to be sure)
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Ah I see. You only get 1 Commendation with 6 months of Prime and 3 with 1 Year when you sign up (and when it renews). Otherwise, they are separate. You don't get X per month or anything like that, just some free ones as bonus to signing up for more than 3 months. :)
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