How to beat Yorick?

[quote=CrimsonSkyz]In my first answer I was trolling about [[fiddlesticks]]' drain. You wouldn't drain much at all if you use drain on a ghoul. It already loses health per second and it doesn't have much health to begin with. Didn't think I would get so much "your retarded" comments. Don't take it so seriously... It was my first attempt to troll and I don't think I'll be doing it again lol. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's my more serious answer(which I forgot to post yesterday, my bad haha): I honestly beat [[yorick]] everytime I go [[trundle]]. I don't let the ghouls attack me I just move away since they are pretty slow. Boots can help me outrun the ghouls easily. Basically like I said in my previous answer each time [[yorick]] summons a ghoul it's just a free heal for me. I also said before that [[trundle]] can use [[rabid bite]] on [[yorick]] to lower his AD and therefore lowering the AD on [[yorick]]'s ghouls. [[trundle]]'s passive does heal him for [[yorick]]'s ghouls but only by a small amount. But because [[yorick]] can spam his ghouls a lot the healing from [[trundle]]'s passive will eventually stack up and make a decent amount. I also beat [[yorick]] everytime I play [[fiddlesticks]]. I use [[dark wind]] on the ghoul so that it will bounce to [[yorick]] and get rid of the ghoul at the same time. I only do it when there aren't a lot of minions since [[dark wind]] bounces randomly. I harass [[yorick]] a lot with this method. [[dark wind]] has a fairly long cooldown so it can't be spammed a lot. I don't have much of a problem with mana since I tend to have blue buff, one or two [[doran's rings]] and mp5 runes. Before saying that they are not viable counters have you tried them out against [[yorick]] before? If you have and honestly think that these two are not viable counters that's your opinion and I can't change that. They work fine for me and if it doesn't for you then oh well...[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]What Khazem said is that any [b]competent[/b] jungler will not allow you to go Fiddle top without dying once or ten times. This means that in a team where the jungler ganks "at random" you can possibly go Fid versus Yorick without issues. Sure, if they turret dive you can ulti under tower and avoid death. But your ulti's CD is around twice that of yorick's, so they can do it again[/quote]

[quote=CrimsonSkyz]@FalseoGod Okay thanks for clarifying. Yea it's true, a good jungler would not allow [[fiddlesticks]] to get fed. Point taken. On another note: I think [[shen]] might be viable against [[yorick]] since his [[vorpal blade]] is easily spammable and is ranged. Allows for easy last hitting without getting too close to [[yorick]] and will heal [[shen]] since you are dealing a killing blow by last hitting. It can also be used to kill a ghoul that is coming at you with low health. I don't have a [[shen]] so this is just a theory. If it works good for you! If not my theories are cr@p![/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=FalseoGod] What Khazem said is that any [b]competent[/b] jungler will not allow you to go Fiddle top without dying once or ten times. This means that in a team where the jungler ganks "at random" you can possibly go Fid versus Yorick without issues. Sure, if they turret dive you can ulti under tower and avoid death. But your ulti's CD is around twice that of yorick's, so they can do it again [/quote] i don't think you get it, it's not the ult cooldown, it's the fact that fiddle can fear the enemy jungle or yorick and drain the other. If he fears the jungler, then yorick has no way to stop his drain channeling.[/quote]

[quote=Yukimaru][quote=Mooninites] [quote=FalseoGod] What Khazem said is that any [b]competent[/b] jungler will not allow you to go Fiddle top without dying once or ten times. This means that in a team where the jungler ganks "at random" you can possibly go Fid versus Yorick without issues. Sure, if they turret dive you can ulti under tower and avoid death. But your ulti's CD is around twice that of yorick's, so they can do it again [/quote] i don't think you get it, it's not the ult cooldown, it's the fact that fiddle can fear the enemy jungle or yorick and drain the other. If he fears the jungler, then yorick has no way to stop his drain channeling. [/quote] Fear Duration: Duration: 1 / 1.5 / 2 / 2.5 / 3 seconds Dragin Duration: (Active): Fiddlesticks channels and leashes to a target for 5 seconds) Now try to think a second logical.[/quote]

[quote=Werepirelord]Ugh, noone listens to me. I asked a pro player at gamescom and they said Renekton was the counter........[/quote]

[quote=Fox Rage][quote=Werepirelord] Ugh, noone listens to me. I asked a pro player at gamescom and they said Renekton was the counter........ [/quote] Did he say why? If he didn't, then what he said does not matter.[/quote]

[quote=Werepirelord]It's pretty neat, Yorick harasses and then goes in for a kill which is hard against Renek because of the stun, no mana costs(so can stay longer in the lane), q heals him,and ults is very good against that last engagement and he can dash away or after Yorick very fast.[/quote]

[quote=CrimsonSkyz][quote=Werepirelord] It's pretty neat, Yorick harasses and then goes in for a kill which is hard against Renek because of the stun, no mana costs(so can stay longer in the lane), q heals him,and ults is very good against that last engagement and he can dash away or after Yorick very fast. [/quote] Seems kinda viable I guess, but what if [[yorick]] is just plain harassing/zoning out [[renekton]]? Even if his Q, [[cull the meek]], heals him there is still a hard cap on that heal. Usually [[yorick]] may have a few ghouls out so the damage from the ghouls > than the heal. I don't think any experienced player in general would go in for the kill on [[renekton]] or [[nasus]] because of their ultimates. Well that's my thoughts so far on [[renekton]] vs. [[yorick]]. I'll give it a try though, but finding a good [[yorick]] player might take a while and I'm not exactly a good [[renekton]] either. Anyone else wanna try it out and talk about their results o.O?[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]Well, Yorick doesn't handle full-on early battles well against some duelists, I've seen him fall to a [[Fiora]] because she insisted in fighting at level 2 after the minion wave was almost clear, eventually getting a kill at level 3, and we all know Fiora snowballs hard.[/quote]