Lichbane VS Muramana

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[quote=Joshified][quote=NicknameMy] But 1000 mana is never a bad thing on [[ryze]]. And [[muramana]] procs on both Q and W. If you already got [[seraph's embrace]] and you know, you have time to stack [[manamune]], I think it is more efficient than anything else for damage. [/quote] [[Ryze]]'s auto attack animation is terrible. If you are wasting time chucking an auto attack when you should be bursting down their entire team you are simply minimizing your damage potential. He scale way better with different items. It takes way too long to stack up two mana items, so when you have just [[Manamune]] you are vulnerable for a good 10 minutes of the game minimum. Seriously, [[Seraph's Embrace]] + [[Rod of ages]] is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too powerful. That is more ap than a [[Rabadon's]] and an incredible amount of mana to increase his damage further. All you need after that combo is defensive items + [[Void staff]] to absolutely wreck your opponents.[/quote]

[quote=Dill Money]I'm pretty sure there is a video on youtube or a blog post here that shows which item is more efficient for [[Ryze]] in certain situations. I think it is based upon your target's magic resist and/or armor is. I don't know, I'm not a [[Ryze]] player or a super duper math whiz.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]You don't auto attack at all with Ryze, [[Muramana]] just procs on his Q and W without attacking. And even if physical damage, 6% of mana as damage from your super high mana pool is huge. You got over 6k mana, that is 360 damage. And the basic [[tear of the goddess]] is a very cheap item which you can get first and then other items like [[rod of ages]]. As long as you stack it up, you can buy other items.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]Muramana = more damage. Seraph's = more tankiness. Take your pick.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=Joshified][[Ryze]]'s auto attack animation is terrible. If you are wasting time chucking an auto attack when you should be bursting down their entire team you are simply minimizing your damage potential.[/quote] [quote=NicknameMy]You don't auto attack at all with Ryze[/quote] You are both wrong. Ryze may have low cooldowns but they do exist. You can quite easily fit in several autoattacks while spamming your spells as much as possible. I suggest you do so since it's free damage that you're not dealing. Just right-click in the brief windows when you aren't able to cast a spell. [quote=Joshified]He scale way better with different items. It takes way too long to stack up two mana items, so when you have just [[Manamune]] you are vulnerable for a good 10 minutes of the game minimum.[/quote] This is basically why [[Muramana]] is not a great item on him. EDIT: Also I'm not really sure why we're discussing this in this incredibly old thread.[/quote]

[quote=LevasK]Well I guess Muramana should be considered as an optional pick up on Ryze maybe if you are doing well and you already have Seraph and RoA? Also I'm pretty sure that with blue buffs and the CDR and you get with max Q and what ever you get from mastery tree you should be able to stack full tear faster then in 10 min. P.s.I replied to this thread cuz I saw I new post in it :/[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]I didn't even realize this thread was necro'd. Scumbag necro'er.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]I'm gonna lock this thread since it's gone offtopic, if you guys would like to continue the Ryze debate, just make a new thread.[/quote]