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Some things that have been bugging me when I play AD Carries.

1) When do you buy Triple Doran's Blades over Double Dorans + Vamp Scepter?

So far I've been guessing if you need durability + damage over sustain (like Ashe, because of her lack of mobility), but is there another reason?

Also, triple dorans > Phantom Dancer seems to be a pretty strong choice. I tried it out in a game and it felt better than going double dorans > Infinity Edge.



2) The Bloodthirster > Phantom Dancer or Infinity Edge > Phantom Dancer?

Again, I kinda know a bit about it. I think you go BT > PD if you're behind, IE > PD if you're ahead/even, but are there any other reasons?

Any answers would be appreciated ^_^
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I thought that BD was when you were ahead? IE Was when you were behind... Idk, but thats how i've always viewed it >.<
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DuskToGlory » July 31, 2012 11:40pm | Report
Good questions, unfortunately I didn't main AD carries for long enough(or good enough) to know the answers.
Though arcana does bring up a valid point, at least to an extent,if your behind, it might make it hard to keep your BT stacks, as opposed to when you're doing well. I never really thought about it, but I usually go infinity->zeal->bloodthirster->phantom.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by tehAsian » July 31, 2012 11:50pm | Report
Yeah, but my logic is that its cheaper than Vamp IE PD by about 1k gold (easier to obtain), more sustain (stay in lane and farm more) and you still do comparable damage.

I've also been told that its better if you have abilities that scale well off AD, like Condemn or Piercing Arrow, but tbh I have no idea how 20AD can make that big of a difference when you can potentially crit for 2.5x damage.
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I litterally play 3 AD carries... Sivir, Cait, Ashe... If I'm like super ahead I get a BT so I can keep ahead of them. I usually get an IE if I feel like that can still get back into the game. Oh yeah btw, usually you wanna get a Last Whisper instead of a Zeal... Usually wanna get it mid-late game.

TehAsain... How many Dorans do you stack? Usually in every game I stack at least 2, and have 1 boots before i buy a bf sword... And then beserak greaves... From what im reading, you buy a vampric scepter? Then an IE? and then a PD???? I would just toss the scepter, and get a dorans... Just better >.> Idk, just wondering >.<
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Boots + Pots > Doran's + Zerker's > Doran's (maybe) + Vamp + Zeal > IE > BT

I grab BT before IE if my range is shorter than the enemy AD. For example, BT first on Vayne if I'm against Caitlyn.
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I generally go

Boots of Speed
Doran's Blade
Doran's Blade
Vampiric Scepter or Berserker's Greaves depending on which champion I'm playing.
Get opposite of above
Infinity Edge
Phantom Dancer
Sell 1 Dorans, buy Last Whisper
Sell Dorans, buy The Bloodthirster
Guardian Angel
Mercury's Treads or another Phantom Dancer, replacing Greaves, again depending on who I'm playing.

Infinity Edge when you're ahead is just great because you can poke them in lane and just chunk them over and over. BT when your ahead isnt that great because with Vampirism + Vamp scepter + double dorans you'd have 21% life steal, which is already better :p and like I said, critting for 2.5x damage outweighs the extra 20 AD.

Phantom Dancer is next because you get absolutely massive dps with it combined with IE. Last Whisper isn't that great because you don't have any real damage output yet; PD gives you that damage.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DuffTime » August 1, 2012 12:25am | Report
Watch more Aphromoo. That guy is the god of ADC.

He says BT first unless stomping, when stomping I.E is fine.

Do whatever he says imo.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by tehAsian » August 1, 2012 12:26am | Report
@jhoi

any reason why BT would be better because of the range difference? I assume its because Cait can harass more easily and the life steal is needed?
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@duff

K, I'll watch him sometime. Thanks for the suggestion :P

But I thought someone with IE would win against someone with BT?
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