Volibear Theorycrafting Thread

[quote=caucheka]uhm.. 8/18/11/80. but his ults on cd while your lightning hands are active so more like 68 for those.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Mmm. Probably not Trinity for the proc then but Trinity could still be a strong item for the overall effects. ^_^[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Trinity seems like a bad choice. He scales much better with Mallet. Lots of HP+Wit's End+Spirit Visage seems like the way to go.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]Nerf voli and I mean it. Oh my god. solobot against one with fizz. His W did fucking 300 ~ 600 damage to me early game. Oh my god... Anyways he seems just like a normal offtank. He already deals shitloads of damage with his w, and he disrupts quite well. I say go Atmogs or Fratma w/ flat on tank items. Maybe madreds or on hit if doing well?[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@Searz: You'll be needing [[Mercury's Treads]] too. That's so much magic resist, and so little armor~ [[Volibear]] is apparently a pretty sweet jungler - So I'm thinking. [[Madred's Razors]] - No upgrade to Wriggle's, then build it into [[Madred's Bloodrazor]] after all the nice HP stuff. Maybe rush that [[Regrowth Pendant]] into the build early, so that you can rely on Regen instead of life steal in between ganks. Better then Wit's End, but you get a nice balance of armor. Wit's End seems more of an optional item. Better then build him entirely bulky, with just the jungle-focused item.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]What? I just mentioned a few core/preferred items. One or more armor items would obviously be needed. Bloodrazor could work. Wit's End is better in general, but if the match lasts long enough maybe..[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]His Frenzy is nuts... if I read that correctly (still dont own the champ) youll get what? 290 base + 20% extra of your own HP + 1% for every 1% of enemy Health missing??? That doesnt seem quite right...? Maybe its sth like 1% for every 1% enemy HP with a 20% cap? Madreds would utilize his AS but youll neglect needed defense while youre at it.. Maybe as your 4-5 item or so. Seems like only E and Ult scales off of AP? E: 0.6; Ult: 0.3. That right? If so: E is aoe so pretty much okay there and Ult would be 0.3 on EVERY AA within 12 secs on a max of 5 targets (mainaim + 4 chains?) That would be pretty awesome. 1 AA hits the whole enemy team and gives you a total ratio of 1.5 every time?? o0 I'd like that AP then. Sooooo.... -RoA -Mercs/Sorcs -Rylais -Abyssal/Zhonya -Nashors (<-- yeah yeah nobody likes Nashor's rotten old tooth...I love it, so screw you!!!) -Rabadon Is it just me or does every newer champ feel simliar atm? Edit: Usng a strong AP build doesnt feel right atm, withot a test run, at least... maybe you will miss too much dmg output while heavily relying on a 80sec ult? Frenzy's CD is pretty much meh and Roar alone doesnt seem to to it too... ?[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100][quote=Darcurse] Seems like only E and Ult scales off of AP? E: 0.6; Ult: 0.3. That right? [/quote] Yup those scalings are correct[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]W and ult seem to be his only damaging abilities (well, nuke anyways) So I suggest going FM, SV, Wit's/BV, SFC, Atma's, Merc treads. If his W really does scale off HP extremely well, this shit will be super good. Always kill never die. Only added Atma's cause I figured you had enough tankiness and it would improve your ult, but you could get a Warmog's there I imagine, lul. Aegis will probably be good too.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka][quote=Darcurse] if I read that correctly (still dont own the champ) youll get what? 290 base + 20% extra of your own HP + 1% for every 1% of enemy Health missing??? That doesnt seem quite right...? Maybe its sth like 1% for every 1% enemy HP with a 20% cap? [/quote] it has a nearly 20 sec cooldown for a reason. you read it correctly.[/quote]