Sivir Build Guide by Kizum
The Battle Mistress - AD carry In Depth (Updated 7/7 2012)
Kizum
Last updated on December 3, 2012
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Really good guide! |
 AJLOL Posts: 3 Joined: 2012-04-25 |
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Nice guide. I really like the layout and everything is very smooth to read. But I would prefer the 
Trinity force over the second
Phantom dancer. Because what you diden't mention is the 150% extra damage from your current ad on your next basic attack after an ability use. That "trinity hit" can also crit with a cooldown of only 2 sec. you can put out insane damage if combined right. That would make an opportunity for you to switch the
Frozen Mallet to a
Guardian Angel for drawn out games. I'm not saying that it might be a better build because it may depent on each teams setup, but it's just my opinion in a different build.-Onrion  Wanna do me a favor and press the +Rep button if you think I was of any help to you? In that way you will help me in return. Thx. :) |
 Onrion Unremarkable (10) Posts: 60 Joined: 2011-12-07 IGN: Onrion |
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Quoted:
You can buy Last Whisper after Wit's End, not before cause like I said, you only do more damage on yourself then.
can u explain that pls? the dmg the tornmail does to you is before the enemy armor comes in to the math, so u say that because of the little ad it will give u? |
 tribness Unremarkable (9) Posts: 104 Joined: 2012-02-04 |
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tribness wrote:
can u explain that pls? the dmg the tornmail does to you is before the enemy armor comes in to the math, so u say that because of the little ad it will give u? Its like this. Last whisper gives you armor penetration. That means that you do more damage cause it break down armor in some way xD. So you will do more damage on yourself cause its 30 % of the damage you do that throws back on you, and you will do more damage with the armor penetration from last whisper. You get it? -Kizum
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Kizum Unremarkable (10) Posts: 80 Joined: 2012-02-21 IGN: Kizum on EUW View My Blog |
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yep i do, but you are wrong. Quoted:
An example:
I'm Tryndamere, and I hit someone with Thormail for a 1.000 Raw Crit. Thormail returns then to me 30% of that damage (300 damage) as Magic damage. Then, the guy wearing Thormail reduces (for example) 50% of physical damage with his armor value, so I'm really only hitting him for 500 damage, while he returns 300 damage to me. If I had 25% of lifesteal (a full charged Bloodthirster for example), I would be healing 25% of the 500 efective damage, healing back 125 HP; still getting efectively hurt 175 for every 500 damage I'm doing to that guy. copied from the commentary's on the item itself to make it more clear |
tribness Unremarkable (9) Posts: 104 Joined: 2012-02-04 |
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tribness wrote:
yep i do, but you are wrong. indeed it returns 30% of the damage you do, but that is before the armor of the enemy is taken into account, so u will do the same dmg to u, regardless of their armor.. so the last whisper is in fact a "counter" to the tornmail cause u still do a considerable amount of dmg while taking the exact same dmg.. ok? hope it helped edit: copied from the commentary's on the item itself to make it more clear Ok but wits end still counter thornmail xD
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Kizum Unremarkable (10) Posts: 80 Joined: 2012-02-21 IGN: Kizum on EUW View My Blog |
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nice guid but u coud up grade the facts how to block all the other champs after fiora |
 did u se me Posts: 0 Joined: 2012-04-21 |
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did u se me wrote:
nice guid but u coud up grade the facts how to block all the other champs after fiora Thanks, Check my to do list. I will fix it =D
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Kizum Unremarkable (10) Posts: 80 Joined: 2012-02-21 IGN: Kizum on EUW View My Blog |
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In depth guide on  Sivir, I love it. Only problem is I don't agree with some of your spell shield block ratings (e.g  Charm is quite easy to block unless you are near them). Also, you should add a completely different "Farm" section because people don't realize how important it is to farm with Sivir, you should be farming constantly with her, but you don't mention about farm a lot.
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 moumoon Unremarkable (11) Posts: 85 Joined: 2011-08-21 IGN: JBisAwesomeU |
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moumoon wrote:
In depth guide on Sivir, I love it. Only problem is I don't agree with some of your spell shield block ratings (e.g Charm is quite easy to block unless you are near them). Also, you should add a completely different "Farm" section because people don't realize how important it is to farm with Sivir, you should be farming constantly with her, but you don't mention about farm a lot.Big thanks for reading this =). Yes Charm can be easy to block and I had a problem when I did the  Spell Shield list.I realized when I came to  Ashe to she usually use her ulti close to you and then its hard to block.But she can use it far away from you too and then it can be easy. So the thing is that it can be hard to block some abilities but you need to count in how far it is from you to them. Thats what makes it hard or easy actually. Will fix it. Thanks again!
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