7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=H4xDefender]Lulu is tier 1 in mid Changed up lower tiers for most of the roles[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi][quote=Cooper112]Smite tp is fine for competitive. Solo q not so much at least i find the jungler and teams just bitches at you omg you take my jungle camp gg. Better off with tp ignite on hec and maybe even shy.[/quote] I dunno, on renekton, I found smite teleport incredibly useful in my solo Q games. It even helped me to hold me own vs a shyvana. A pocket smite/ignite/damage exhaust is awesome, even in solo Q play. Cause I know I can smite better for objectives than my jungler 90% of the time.[/quote]

[quote=utopus][quote=h4xdefender]Lulu is tier 1 in mid[/quote] Oops. Lol, not sure how i didn't see that xD I feel like tier 3 is like, messier than a frat house after 4/20. It looks a dumpster for anything that was at one point "meta" LOL; 53 Champions in the top lane tier list, and not one of them can [b]really[/b] be removed from the list without pitchforks being raised [quote=toshabi]I dunno, on renekton, I found smite teleport incredibly useful in my solo Q games. [/quote] I don't even want to know what [[skirmisher's sabre]] renekton was like before the skirmisher's blade nerf (When the true damage was an on-hit effect as opposed to a DoT). Jesus thinking of an empowered [[ruthless predator]] is cringe-worthy[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]you're missing mid vlad as well. i'd argue for low tier 1 or high tier 2 you have two nidalees in top lane (top tier 3 lowest tier 2) I think Nami should be much lower in tier 2 sup Urgot should be higher in tier 2 adc and viktor should be out of the tier list or bumped higher :|[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]Nami is by far the best peel support once janna/morg are off the board, and she has a good lane matchup vs janna too, she deserves to be where she is added vladimir moved reksai to top of tier 2 moved up urgot. was waiting for LCK semis to determine where he deserves to be, no other region played him well xd bumped viktor a bit after talking to some mids, hard to really determine where he should be exactly yet fixed nidalee added fizz to mid[/quote]

[quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=H4xDefender]Nami is by far the best peel support once janna/morg are off the board, and she has a good lane matchup vs janna too, she deserves to be where she is [/quote] [[Alistar]]. Yeah, I won't deny that [[Nami]] is a much better support simply because of her versatility, but saying that she is the best peel support [b][h1]BY FAR[/h1][/b] is a very bold statement (no pun intended)(E-Sports reference very much intended) when it is definitely debatable.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]Alistar and Naut have decent peel but it's not on the same level as Nami/Janna/Lulu. Those are actually built for peeling. CC supports like Naut/Thresh/Ali have good peel because they have crowd control but they're not as reliable at it. Alistar in particular has really high cooldowns.[/quote]

[quote=Zordagoth]@H4x : Nop ^^, 1 Looper's Singed game didn't make Singed a must pick... I just saw FINALLY one game where Shyv does good, but I still remember the others.[/quote]

[quote=utopus][quote=Zordagoth]@H4x : Nop ^^, 1 Looper's Singed game didn't make Singed a must pick... I just saw FINALLY one game where Shyv does good, but I still remember the others.[/quote] Shy single handedly carried his team for two out of the three games they would've needed to beat the best team in the world. I don't think they're comparable[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]The difference is, teams continually prioritize shyvana in pick/ban. Looper's singed was just a pocket pick.[/quote]