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[quote=Vynertje][quote=Re4XN]Yet another easy victory thrown away. Our bot lane was completely useless ([[Varus]] had terrible positioning and would get deleted almost immediately and [[Anivia]] wasn't a huge asset either). I got super fed against one of my biggest counters but there was little I could do in teamfights (I ran up to [[Ashe]] but it was only me and [[elise]] focusing her). Anyway, frustrating game... [img=http://s12.postimg.org/4whzrh0fx/rito_plz.png] EDIT: Fun fact! [[Ashe]] dealt 100,000 damage that game. She literally, 1 vs 5 our entire team. I dealt 50,000 and [[Nidalee]] dealt around 60,000.[/quote] Not meant to be a douche, but just looking at the screenshot I feel like there's so much more you could've done to win the game. Just for starters, have a look at your build and perhaps reconsider some things. E.g. [[thornmail]] would be a clearly superiour option to [[frozen mallet]] in a game where Ashe literally 1v5's. Getting [[Zephyr]] instead of boots is also a kinda awkward thing to do on a melee champion because you rely so much on your movement speed to get your kills.[/quote]

[quote=Zordagoth]And you had quite a good pokey comp, but i'm pretty sure you didn't used it ^^' Also, you say noone but Elise and you were on Ashe, but you do realize that Varus and Anivia can't walk up to her, totally ignore Darius, Yi, Khartus and start attacking Ashe, right ?[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi][quote=The_Nameless_Bard]get paid $10/hour, so it's worth.[/quote] Wow, that's incredibly low. That's what I was paid in my second last year of high school. Is that a standard wage?[/quote]

[quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=jhoijhoi][quote=The_Nameless_Bard]get paid $10/hour, so it's worth.[/quote] Wow, that's incredibly low. That's what I was paid in my second last year of high school. Is that a standard wage?[/quote] Australians make more money in their own currency on average, which is why our stuff is more expensive. Their wages are adjusted to their prices and standard of living. Cans of drink are about a dollar in the U.S, where as they're about $2.5 -- $3.0 here.[/quote]

[quote=Janitsu]Yeah the same in Finland. The country is so expensive but the wages are pretty high as well.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=jhoijhoi]Wow, that's incredibly low. That's what I was paid in my second last year of high school. Is that a standard wage?[/quote]bahahahahahahaha. That's $2.75/hour (and $2/hour more than the two jobs I had before that) more than I was being paid at the job I had before this (the federal minimum wage here in the US, which is what I was being paid at my last job, is $7.25/hour and ND hasn't increased it the way some states have). Actually, this is the most I've ever been paid per hour at a job, ever, and as far as things go around here, it's considered pretty good pay. Especially when you consider that I haven't even worked at this business a month yet. The US just doesn't believe in paying their workers well — people are afraid of paying more for things — and it's usually an argument every time anyone wants to raise the minimum wage (before I moved SD wanted to raise theirs, for example, and my dad was pretty against it) because people seem to hold the opinion that people who work without a degree are lazy and stupid and don't deserve to get paid enough to actually, you know, live. I wouldn't actually be able to live alone on what I get paid, even if I worked full time (35+ hours/week), unless I was willing to live in a pretty terrible place to live. Also, with the exchange rate as is between the AUD and the USD (though it's likely changed since the time you worked, we'll go with this), I'm getting paid roughly $3/hour more than you would've been getting paid when you were in HS, just saying.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]My first job I was at $6.50/hr when I was 12. Then $9/hr in year 11 (age 16). Then $15/hr first year of university (age 18). Then $25/hr in childcare in my last year of uni. Then $70/hr relief teaching last year. Now $45/hr full-time teaching, including paid holidays (age 24). Even if your point is that you were paid $3 more than me when I was 16, I'm not really seeing why that is a good point to make. I think the American pay system sucks :/ Especially if you say you couldn't afford to live in a nice play working full time at that wage. In Australia there is a minimum wage and it increases based on age. Of course it also depends on the job you have.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]Oh, I wasn't trying to make a point there, it was just a comment. The US is full of cheapskates who don't want the cost of things to go up, end of story. The minimum wage only increases above the federal rate if a state decides to raise it (or they decide to raise the federal minimum wage, which is being pushed by many people), and everyone gets paid at least the same minimum wage per hour regardless of age. You can always get a job that pays more, but the minimum wage is static. For example, I worked at a restaurant in Rapid City and my 15 and 16 year old coworkers were getting paid just as much as I was ($8/hour). If you think this is bad, you should read about how working as a waiter/waitress works. They get paid a much lower wage because they get tips, you know. The business does have to compensate them if they don't make at least the minimum wage per hour with their tips, but that's all they have to do as far as I know.[/quote]

[quote=Janitsu][quote=The_Nameless_Bard]Oh, I wasn't trying to make a point there, it was just a comment. The US is full of cheapskates who don't want the cost of things to go up, end of story. If you think this is bad, you should read about how working as a waiter/waitress works. They get paid a much lower wage because they get tips, you know.[/quote] That's why people in foreign countries hate Finnish people - we never tip. We have never had a habit of tipping since people get paid to do their work. "Thank you" is more than enough for a Finnish waiter/waitress. :)[/quote]

[quote=Re4XN][quote=Vynertje][quote=Re4XN]Yet another easy victory thrown away. Our bot lane was completely useless ([[Varus]] had terrible positioning and would get deleted almost immediately and [[Anivia]] wasn't a huge asset either). I got super fed against one of my biggest counters but there was little I could do in teamfights (I ran up to [[Ashe]] but it was only me and [[elise]] focusing her). Anyway, frustrating game... [img=http://s12.postimg.org/4whzrh0fx/rito_plz.png] EDIT: Fun fact! [[Ashe]] dealt 100,000 damage that game. She literally, 1 vs 5 our entire team. I dealt 50,000 and [[Nidalee]] dealt around 60,000.[/quote] Not meant to be a douche, but just looking at the screenshot I feel like there's so much more you could've done to win the game. Just for starters, have a look at your build and perhaps reconsider some things. E.g. [[thornmail]] would be a clearly superiour option to [[frozen mallet]] in a game where Ashe literally 1v5's. Getting [[Zephyr]] instead of boots is also a kinda awkward thing to do on a melee champion because you rely so much on your movement speed to get your kills.[/quote] I wasn't dying a whole lot, but I was considering getting a [[Thornmail]], the game just didn't last long enough for me to get it (in retrospective, I guess I should've gotten it earlier). The reason why I was hesitant to build it was because I could handle their entire team's damage (no joke), giving my team enough time (more than enough time) to kill everyone. [[Nidalee]] just decided to go for the super easy targets first ([[Darius]], he was wayyyy behind, [[Karthus]], who was pretty much dead with one spear and [[Master Yi]] who was also super easy to kill), but as soon as she'd kill them, [[Ashe]] would wipe the floor with her face. I made some bad calls too that game, but I was trying to do the right thing. If LolRecorder wasn't such a douchebag (lel) I'd send you the replay for you to see. [[Zephyr]] is, in my opinion, a strong item on [[Dr. Mundo]] when the game is lasting way longer than it should. You say I rely on my Movespeed to get kills, you are absolutely right, but the thing is, I get a 35% movement speed boost from [[Sadism]], not to mention if I use [[Ghost]] (which was pretty much always available when I needed it). On top of that, I get more Attack Speed that in conjunction with the [[Frozen Mallet]] and [[Infected Cleaver]] made escapes impossible. [quote=Zordagoth]And you had quite a good pokey comp, but i'm pretty sure you didn't used it ^^' Also, you say noone but Elise and you were on Ashe, but you do realize that Varus and Anivia can't walk up to her, totally ignore Darius, Yi, Khartus and start attacking Ashe, right ?[/quote] [[Varus]] and [[Anivia]] couldn't walk up to them and you know why? Because they'd engage the enemy team from the sides (at least Varus would) and instantly got deleted. [[Anivia]] was actually useful a couple of times with her wall, but that was about it :/ The thing [[Varus]] needed to do was to stay behind us, but he just refused to do it :( Anyway, I'm not going to complain anymore (this isn't the QQ thread after all), we all made mistakes that game, including myself. Better luck next time.[/quote]