My Ashe Guide

[quote=jhoijhoi]Canoas: The other top Ashe guides are smaller. Feel free to read them, I don't mind. My guide will probably remain the length it is. It would be nice if there were "spoiler" BBC coding though. As in (spoiler)this stuff is now hidden(/spoiler), so then if people want to read a certain part they could click to open/reveal, and all the parts they don't care about are concealed. Slizer002: *sigh* I'll wait for more confirmation, don't want to change it based upon two yes's when most likely everyone else will say no. Booshido: [[doran's blade]], [[boots of speed]] and [[madred's bloodrazor]] are all mentioned. For Glyphs I have Flat Cooldown and magic resist is suggested. Masteries are 15/0/15 already.[/quote]

[quote=Jet]i summed this up pretty well on page 3 5 pages of shit afterwards[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi][quote=Softzephyr] Disclaimer: May contain (major) errors. Stark’s vs Bloodthirster (using Last Whisper and Black Cleaver) Target armor: 70, 100, 150, 200 Item build: merc, IE, PD, LW/BC, BT/SF, BV Runes: Marks of Desolation (15 arpen), others irrelevant to calculations Masteries: 21/0/9 Constant stats: 21 arpen, 57% crit chance, 260% crit dmg LW: 40% arpen (applied last) SF: 20 arpen BC: 15, 30, 45 arpen AS: number of attacks per second (value from leaguecraft builder) AD: attack damage (value from leaguecraft builder) Dmg: AD*(100/(100+effective armor)) Dmg in 3 secs: AS*3*Dmg [i]OR[/i] (AS*3-3)*4th+3rd+2nd+1st Bracket = dmg*0.57*2.6 + dmg*0.43 (estimated dmg after taking criticals into account) [b]LW+BT AS 1.42 AD 286-326 (0 stack - 40 stacks)[/b] [u]70 armor[/u] Dmg per hit: 221-252 Dmg in 3 secs: 941-1074 ([color=yellow]1799-2053[/color]) Dmg in 5 secs: 1569-1789 (3000-3421) [u]100 armor[/u] Dmg per hit: 194-221 Dmg in 3 secs: 826-941 ([color=yellow]1579-1799[/color]) Dmg in 5 secs: 1377-1569 (2633-3000) [u]150 armor[/u] Dmg per hit: 161-184 Dmg in 3 secs: 686-784 ([color=yellow]1312-1499[/color]) Dmg in 5 secs: 1143-1306 (2185-2497) [u]200 armor[/u] Dmg per hit: 138-157 Dmg in 3 secs: 588-669 ([color=yellow]1124-1279[/color]) Dmg in 5 secs: 980-1115 (1874-2132) [b]LW+SF AS 1.683 AD 226[/b] [u]70 armor[/u] Dmg per hit: 193 Dmg in 3 secs: 974 ([color=yellow]1862[/color]) Dmg in 5 secs: 1624 (3105) [u]100 armor[/u] Dmg per hit: 167 Dmg in 3 secs: 843 ([color=yellow]1612[/color]) Dmg in 5 secs: 1405 (2686) [u]150 armor[/u] Dmg per hit: 137 Dmg in 3 secs: 692 ([color=yellow]1323[/color]) Dmg in 5 secs: 1153 (2204) [u]200 armor[/u] Dmg per hit: 116 Dmg in 3 secs: 586 ([color=yellow]1120[/color]) Dmg in 5 secs: 976 (1866) [b]BC+BT AS 1.617 AD 301-341[/b] [u]70 armor[/u] 1st hit: 202-229 2nd hit: 225-254 3rd hit: 253-287 4th hit and on: 289-328 Dmg in 3 secs: 1215-1377 ([color=yellow]2323-2633[/color]) Dmg in 5 secs: 2150-2438 (4111-4661) [u]100 armor[/u] 1st hit: 168-191 2nd hit: 184-208 3rd hit: 202-229 4th hit and on: 225-254 Dmg in 3 secs: 970-1098 ([color=yellow]1855-2099[/color]) Dmg in 5 secs: 1698-1920 (3247-3671) [u]150 armor[/u] 1st hit: 131-149 2nd hit: 141-159 3rd hit: 151-171 4th hit and on: 164-185 Dmg in 3 secs: 727-821 ([color=yellow]1390-1570[/color]) Dmg in 5 secs: 1257-1420 (2403-2715) [u]200 armor[/u] 1st hit: 108-122 2nd hit: 114-129 3rd hit: 121-137 4th hit and on: 129-146 Dmg in 3 secs: 582-658 ([color=yellow]1113-1258[/color]) Dmg in 5 secs: 999-1130 (1910-2160) [b]BC+SF AS 1.88 AD 241[/b] [u]70 armor[/u] 1st hit: 187 2nd hit: 221 3rd hit: 243 4th hit and on: 287 Dmg in 3 secs: 1409 ([color=yellow]2694[/color]) Dmg in 5 secs: 2488 (4757) [u]100 armor[/u] 1st hit: 152 2nd hit: 167 3rd hit: 187 4th hit and on: 211 Dmg in 3 secs: 1063 ([color=yellow]2032[/color]) Dmg in 5 secs: 1856 (3549) [u]150 armor[/u] 1st hit: 115 2nd hit: 124 3rd hit: 135 4th hit and on: 147 Dmg in 3 secs: 762 ([color=yellow]1457[/color]) Dmg in 5 secs: 1315 (2514) [u]200 armor[/u] 1st hit: 93 2nd hit: 99 3rd hit: 105 4th hit and on: 113 Dmg in 3 secs: 595 ([color=yellow]1138[/color]) Dmg in 5 secs: 1020 (1950) [b][color=yellow]Comparison of dmg in 3 secs:[/color][/b] [u]70 armor[/u] BC+SF > BC+BT(40) > BC+BT(0) > LW+BT(40) > LW+SF = LW+BT(10) [u]100 armor[/u] BC+BT(29) = BC+SF > BC+BT(0) > LW+BT(40) > LW+SF = LW+BT(6) [u]150 armor[/u] BC+BT(25) = LW+BT(40) > BC+SF = BC+BT(15) = LW+BT(31) > LW+SF = LW+BT(3) [u]200 armor[/u] LW+BT(35) = BC+BT(40) > BC+SF = LW+BT(4) = BC+BT(7) > LW+SF = BC+BT(3) [b]Comparison of dmg in 5 secs:[/b] [u]70 armor[/u] BC+SF > BC+BT(40) > BC+BT(0) > LW+BT(40) > LW+SF = LW+BT(10) [u]100 armor[/u] BC+BT(29) = BC+SF > BC+BT(0) > LW+BT(40) > LW+SF = LW+BT(6) [u]150 armor[/u] BC+BT(15) = BC+SF > LW+BT(40) > BC+BT(0) = LW+BT(28) > LW+SF = LW+BT(3) [u]200 armor[/u] BC+BT(36) = LW+BT(40) > BC+SF = BC+BT(7) = LW+BT(12) > BC+BT(0) > LW+BT(0) > LW+SF BC+SF is superior except for stacked BT or enemy stacking armor. After taking into account the benefits to your team, BS+SF appears to be a rather solid choice. It would be interesting to see which set will win out if there’s already a set of BC+SF on your team, since the benefits of SF will stack once. [i]Might be useful, although I'm not 100% sure that the values/formulas aren't way off, and auto-attacking for 3 secs seems too long. It would be interesting to have the values for 1 sec and 2 secs.[/i] [/quote] What is your opinion?[/quote]

[quote=FreeSafety23]which quintessence is the best? speed, hp, or arp?[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Jhoi, I think we've established that Ashe is better off with LW by now. Not only because armor reduction doesn't apply on your Volley, but also because Ashe's FIRST attack always is a crit.[/quote]

[quote=Jet]lol starks fervor[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn][quote=FreeSafety23] which quintessence is the best? speed, hp, or arp? [/quote] Depends. Speed helps you get CS while ArP promotes more aggressive play and HP promotes more passive play.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]I would say that HP promotes more aggressive play? The more health you have means the more risk you'd take?[/quote]

[quote=Searz]No. Jebus is correct. Speed and HP promote passive play.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]How odd o.O You'd figure adding more health to your bar would mean you'd be able to take more risks - not the opposite way around :P[/quote]