OP NERF NAO!!1

[quote=JunSupport][quote=Lugignaf] She needs a huge nerf to Silver bolts. Maybe every 3 consecutive attacks instead of every 3 attacks or abilities.[/quote] Words of someone who didn't even bother to try Vayne during her free week. Silver Bolts cancels if you start attacking something else. It has to be 3-in-a-row on the same target.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]@Crazy smurf Vlad requires very little skill to win his lane. He's not fun to play against because you need to outplay him A LOT to win. If you haven't noticed this yet when you main him I'm just sad for you.. Eve is also anti fun. Forces you to spend gold and get less farm. Just not fun to play against.[/quote]

[quote=Dante Rebellion]Agreed about Vlad. He's a joke before level 6, but something starts to happen when he becomes level 6... he becomes...so hard...to beat in the lane.. heck he is game changing in every way. Global ults are.. pretty game changing and a bit OP... but tbh it doesn't really need a nerf or change I don't agree that eve is OP... People just dont get the wards or early oracles... I barely ever have a problem against eve. People must understand to focus her! Vayne and poppy are a bit meh, no idea...[/quote]

[quote=Adonikam]Eve is broken in the way she FORCES you to turret hug and miss huge amounts of cs. She can literally sit mid just out of tower range and constantly stun the mid laner until he's dead. If that's not broken then what is?[/quote]

[quote=Crazy Smurf][quote=Dante Rebellion] Agreed about Vlad. He's a joke before level 6, but something starts to happen when he becomes level 6... he becomes...so hard...to beat in the lane.. heck he is game changing in every way. Global ults are.. pretty game changing and a bit OP... but tbh it doesn't really need a nerf or change I don't agree that eve is OP... People just dont get the wards or early oracles... I barely ever have a problem against eve. People must understand to focus her! Vayne and poppy are a bit meh, no idea... [/quote] Dante learned the vlad part the hard way when playing with me... Searz, the thing is Vlad can be outplayed, but people prefer to sit on their lanes instead of constant ganking him. Having no teamplay against Vladimir is an instant loss, am I not right?[/quote]

[quote=Dante Rebellion]Vlad is gank proof aheuaheuaehaeuaheuaehaue WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW and yes, I learned how incredibly OP vlad is from you and maodi xD[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@Crazy Smurf: Your thoughts on Vlad don't match Riot's posts and majority experience. Ganking Vlad consistently is not a viable solution. That would demand teammates give up experience, trade-offs. [color=yellow]Inb4 Vladimir kit rework.[/color] Vladimir is simply too sustainable in lane while having too-effective an escape mechanism. He's basically the previous FotM Lanewick without being restricted to mana, and having an escape mechanic. Ridiculous is ridiculous. Main problem is, Riot's not sure what to do with him. They do acknowledge that he's an issue.[/quote]

[quote=Rudmed]Gold per 10: I got not comments about this because I rarely use it except for on Amumu when I build him tank. Vlad: 10 second cooldown is probaly too much of a hit. Nerfing the heal probaly okay, but lets think about it. Vlad's main damage comes from his Q and sometimes his E. W is for escaping/ knocking out creep waves. Well as we know his Q costs no life to cast, while his E takes more life for every stack of it. So if we increase the CD by too much on vlad's Q you kill the champion. Riot does not want that. Global: What? You can't take like 40 seconds of your time to walk up to top and push that creep wave back? Cause gee I'm pretty sure a TF can't back door if his creeps are getting pushed back. Or in that case no one is top and TF is debating to back door. Oh wait you're there getting CS. If he can't 1v1 you you're safe. Not to mention the huge warning of an eye, or giant circle, or a shield telling you. OH here comes TF, Panth or Shen maybe I should back off a bit. Eve: Vision ward/ play vlad. I've done it and eve never came mid again. Though I would do something about the get 300 health everytime an enemy dies. Cause it just snowballs after one person dies. Vayne: Oh god yes. I got real tried of seeing a large chunk of my life disappear when I was squishy, or an even larger if I was tankier. Impossible to escape from, but while it is possible to catch her she can just ult tumble away. You lost her, and then she can pop up and kill one of your champs, and knock the closest pursing one way from her. I like what Shadow said. Except Madred's don't stack...oh wait one is an abillity. So sure go ahead throw a madred's on that sucker and watch every single thing around you die. Poppy: I mean look at Considerth when he gets rollin he does his job so well. Picks a target kills it, and then pops his ult and two shots the rest of the team. And before you ask...Yes it is possible to do that as Poppy. Her Q either stacks REALLY well with AP or the % is alot. Because on a TF with 1898 HP she would take me out in two hits. (I of course could kill her in 4 if she is distracted, but she never made that mistake again). The passive is probaly what made that a 4 hit. Though yeah something I would say it make stuns affect her during her ult for a decreased duration. Give her like 65% CC reduction, throw a merc treads on and you will never know the difference. Not to mention she has a speed up abillity.[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn]"So if Riot truely believes that extreme lane dominance is overpowered, keep up the trend by nerfing Vlad's lane dominance and buffing him in other areas, like teamfighting. Imo make increase his Q to a 10 second CD at all levels and buff the damage while nerfing the healing ratio (Just an initial thought)." Yeah, Vlads Q is his best skill and his attack too (like mundo's Q). If you nerf it, I will sell Vlad.[/quote]

[quote=Skrallz]Noooo ! Riot don't listen to the rain man ! Never Nerf EVE ! Eve is 2gud :) Just nerf Vlad. And global champs are picked because they are global . . .I would rarely pick Zilean if he didn't have his passive, even though his ult is reaaaaal guud ![/quote]