Mobafire's ultimate Mordekaiser build

[quote=TheJohn]Again, I'm fighting alone to convince people that what I'm doing is right. Last time, people criticized me a lot because I was building AP Vlad instead of tank. After some weeks, every Vlad was building AP. If someone else was trying to change things too, thank you. The thing with Vlad was a correction, because he's a mage. Everyone knows that. But here's the thing that bothers me: people are building [b] full AP[/b] for the great [b]offtanker[/b], Mordekaiser. This doesnt make sense. You go hextech (totally useless, get will of ancients if u want spellvamp), rylais and rabadons. [b]I can kill a Mordekaiser as Akali, thats absolutely wrong!!![/b] Again I'm fighting alone (cant find anyone to help me T.T), posted my tank build, saying that tank build is better than AP (its tanky AP, not only tank)(and it's full AP, not only AP). I know no one will help me here either, but gotta try. I have a good solution for this: Let's create a build. If we join my tank build with the AP build you guys use, we're gonna be masters. Imagine, the whole Mobafire using the build we created and pwning asses. What u guys think?[/quote]

[quote=BigDaddyPedro][img]http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/2/1/08096702-49d6-44cb-a5e7-c3a00cf2ba29.jpg[/img] Another morde build? No thanks, we all know to play him like a BR.[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn]Really, I'm not joking. If we unite ourselves and make something good, imagine.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Hextech gunblade>WoA....Considering the AD scales with his Q. As well going Hextech into Rylai's then getting tank items isn't bad finishing with Deatchap.... But isn't this more along the lines of theory crafting? I mean "How to build a better morde" sounds like there will be need of speculation :P[/quote]

[quote=RaNuD]I know I've said some stuff directly on your build, but now let's see what Mordekaiser needs and what he has. -Decent AP scaling -Good damage even without items -Hella squishy if you forget about the shield -Need HP in order to cast spells -Has a shield that charges based on your damage output and is affected by damage mitigation -No crowd control effect Soooo. No CC means you're not a tank. Good damage and shield means you're a threat BUT is resilient. Okay we're some kind of tanky Mage. -[icon=Sorcerer's Shoes] or [icon=Mercury's Treads] seem good -[icon=Hextech Revolver] since you need to get HP in some manner while you most likely dont want to build HP directly. Why is that? [icon=Madred's Bloodrazor] gets stronger and getting vamp on your ult probably means as much HP as a [icon=Giant's Belt]. -[icon=Chain Vest] and [icon=Negatron Cloak]. What you build with it is totally situational. The most common picks I'd see would be [icon=Sunfire Cape] and [icon=Force of Nature] [b]Situational stuff[/b] -You dont have a tank? Get some CC [icon=Rylai's Crystal Scepter] -Need to hit like a truck? [icon=Hextech Gunblade] (Saying it is useless is wrong. It gives you some of that MUCH wanted CC, loads of AP and some AD for [icon=Mace of Spades] while making your armor and magic resist MUCH more efficient. The point is your shield gets even more points (armor and magic resist, hi to you) and while this shield is up, your health goes up too (once again, gaining back HP means your armor and magic resist will apply again) By the way, this is some "core build" or something which is almost always decent. But dont expect to write down a 6 items build that is godly. If there was one, Mordekaiser would most likely be nerfed. (and that better not happen because even though he's funny, he's already rather weak) EDIT: [quote=JEFFY40HANDS] Hextech gunblade>WoA....Considering the AD scales with his Q. As well going Hextech into Rylai's then getting tank items isn't bad finishing with Deatchap.... But isn't this more along the lines of theory crafting? I mean "How to build a better morde" sounds like there will be need of speculation :P [/quote] I disagree on Deathcap 90% of the times, but he's right about this being theorycrafting. It has nothing to do with general thoughts about the game.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]There's no best build for Morde at the minute. He's very flexible as to what you want to build, adjusting to enemy team composition. You can build him like an offtank - Rylai's, WotA, Hourglass, Abyssal Scepter, et cetera. You can go Vman7's build and go Lich Bane+Deathcap+Gunblade for insane 1v1 and burst potential. It's a matter of what playstyle you're more suited to and the composition of the enemy team.[/quote]

[quote=Pwnzor1130][quote=Jebus McAzn] There's no best build for Morde at the minute. He's very flexible as to what you want to build, adjusting to enemy team composition. You can build him like an offtank - Rylai's, WotA, Hourglass, Abyssal Scepter, et cetera. You can go Vman7's build and go Lich Bane+Deathcap+Gunblade for insane 1v1 and burst potential. It's a matter of what playstyle you're more suited to and the composition of the enemy team. [/quote] I love AP burst so if i owned him i would do the whole Vman7 build (though my runes would probably be much different). Although honestly, Gunblade > WotA even on an off-tank build. The Q scaling is just too good to pass up. Both builds are completely viable although I've seen AP Morde work much better than off-tank Morde most of the time (Full tank is just fail).[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Pwnzor1130] [quote=Jebus McAzn] There's no best build for Morde at the minute. He's very flexible as to what you want to build, adjusting to enemy team composition. You can build him like an offtank - Rylai's, WotA, Hourglass, Abyssal Scepter, et cetera. You can go Vman7's build and go Lich Bane+Deathcap+Gunblade for insane 1v1 and burst potential. It's a matter of what playstyle you're more suited to and the composition of the enemy team. [/quote] I love AP burst so if i owned him i would do the whole Vman7 build (though my runes would probably be much different). Although honestly, Gunblade > WotA even on an off-tank build. The Q scaling is just too good to pass up. Both builds are completely viable although I've seen AP Morde work much better than off-tank Morde most of the time (Full tank is just fail). [/quote] His runes are kind of weird tbqh. Flat hp/5 would work much better, and lately i've been using flat CDR and i'm fine 1-6 with no revolver, i actually get a kage's on the first trip back if i can't get the 2000g for kage+Revolver.[/quote]

[quote=Pwnzor1130]Eh, I would probably get flat MR blues, Hp5 seals/level, Mpen marks, and MS quints. Why kage's? It's the most inefficient Gp5 item. Are you getting DFG or something? If that doesn't give me enough damage i would use my standard caster runes except with Hp5/level.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]Who was building Vlad as a tank? Ever? AP morde "my idea" for building AP morde... oh wait... it has been here and there 78722858295295 times, no shit? srsly? TBH... Morde build: Sorc boots Sunfire Cape End or even... Sorc boots end. This champion is not realy a rocket science... what do you want to do "Big" with him? he is kinda totaly item independant if you ask me. You can go 6x Philosopher stones for 827582gp5 and it will work.[/quote]