Tiger stance vs Pheonix stance

[quote=Searz]Trinty Force isn't a core item on Phoenix Udyr. It's still really good though. Gunblade is really good too and so is Bloodrazor.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Yeah, I never delved into EXACTLY how each stance applies its damage. I typically put 5 points in tiger/bear/phoenix and 3 in Turtle. More DPS than OT really. And I get Gunblade after Triforce almost every time. It feels (if the AoE spellvamp was slightly higher than whatever it is) that Gunblade would be akin to the Innervating Locket before it was removed. Just sooo much LS and Spell Vamp going on with every attack pretty much. It's sexual tbh XD. And I'm glad TriForce is still a solid option for phoenix stance. Udyr's such a fun versatile champ.[/quote]

[quote=Vort]Trinity Force is viable. Not as ideal as on tiger Udyr, but viable as a 6th. visual representation time! -[[Cloth Armor]] + 4x [[Health Potion]] (so's to rush boots) -[[Boots of Speed]] -[[Recurve Bow]] [[Wit's End]] -[[Heart of Gold]] [[Mercury's Treads]] -[[Giant's Belt]] [[Sunfire Cape]] [[Force of Nature]] [[Randuin's Omen]] (and now you're god mode) [[Trinity Force]] or [[Madred's Bloodrazor]][/quote]

[quote=Searz]^That's a good build. I'd consider Gunblade as a 6th item too.[/quote]

[quote=Vort]I've never tried gunblade on udyr. I could see it working out, to an extent, but I don't know how effectively it would stand up in place of tf.[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]It finished of your tanky build allot better than triforce in my opinion. Gives you some indirect tankiness with insane spellvamp and lifesteal[/quote]

[quote=Vort]Probably more from the spell vamp than life steal.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]I'm pretty sure spell vamp only works on the waves of Pheonix, not the "3rd attack". So I believe life steal will be more useful.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS][quote=Vort] I've never tried gunblade on udyr. I could see it working out, to an extent, but I don't know how effectively it would stand up in place of tf. [/quote] I call it "double dipping". The LS you get from AAs while you're also getting the Spellvamp from the magic damage you deal. It's an extremely efficient item for him, but it depends on your build. For me I'm slightly tanky with a lot of DPS Mercs/Triforce/Gunblade/QSS/Sunfire/Atmas or something along those lines.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] I call it "double dipping". [/quote] +rep[/quote]