Do you want Ezreal to be nerfed?
Ezreal has a blink that can dodge skill shots, go over walls, have its cooldown reduced by his Q which only has to hit a champion or minion. He can speed up the attack speed of allies and lower the attack speed of enemies. He has one of the few global ults still left in league. hiS Q procs on-hit effects making him one of the best kiters in the game. His blink does damage. He can chase extremely well. He can dive and still get out safely. He can harass you through minions with his E. He can effectively lane mid as a counter. He has outright insane damage that when paired with a stun from someone like 
Leona is an almost instant kill. He's one of the safest ADCs due to the fact that he can Kite with a skill that procs on hits and lowers his blinks Cooldown.
Lets look at that.
Mystic shot is effectively a 2 or 3 second cooldown.
Arcane shift is 19
use arcane shift, mystic shot
arcane shift is now at 16 seconds when the next shot is up, use it again and its now at 13 seconds instead of where in this time it would be around 16 seconds.
This makes his blink extremely easy to use, in my opinion stronger than rocket jump which requires a kill to use, now when you think about it, Tristana running from a group of four enemies isn't going to get that kill to make it count, so someone with an effective gap closer will get to her easier than they will ezreal. Tristana won't have a Tforce to proc a slow on, so even if they do catch Ezreal he STILL will be able to get away better.
...Yeah, Ezreal looks pretty damn broken to me.
Leona is an almost instant kill. He's one of the safest ADCs due to the fact that he can Kite with a skill that procs on hits and lowers his blinks Cooldown.Lets look at that.
Mystic shot is effectively a 2 or 3 second cooldown.
Arcane shift is 19
use arcane shift, mystic shot
arcane shift is now at 16 seconds when the next shot is up, use it again and its now at 13 seconds instead of where in this time it would be around 16 seconds.
This makes his blink extremely easy to use, in my opinion stronger than rocket jump which requires a kill to use, now when you think about it, Tristana running from a group of four enemies isn't going to get that kill to make it count, so someone with an effective gap closer will get to her easier than they will ezreal. Tristana won't have a Tforce to proc a slow on, so even if they do catch Ezreal he STILL will be able to get away better.
...Yeah, Ezreal looks pretty damn broken to me.
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throatslasher wrote:
Give arcane shift a 25s cooldown and 175 mana cost. there is no reason corki's escape is on a 20+ second cooldown, and ezreals is way shorter, and you can reduce the cd with mystic shot. Nerf arcane shift and all is right with the world.
Corki's covers almost twice the distance.
Shuru wrote:
use arcane shift, mystic shot
arcane shift is now at 16 seconds when the next shot is up, use it again and its now at 13 seconds instead of where in this time it would be around 16 seconds.
Mystic Shot only reduces cooldowns by one second, not three.
Luther3000 wrote:
Corki's covers almost twice the distance.
Mystic Shot only reduces cooldowns by one second, not three.I was accounting for the cooldown of mystic shot before you could use it again, which is about 2 seconds.
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Shuru wrote:
Ezreal has a blink that can dodge skill shots, go over walls, have its cooldown reduced by his Q which only has to hit a champion or minion. He can speed up the attack speed of allies and lower the attack speed of enemies. He has one of the few global ults still left in league. hiS Q procs on-hit effects making him one of the best kiters in the game. His blink does damage. He can chase extremely well. He can dive and still get out safely. He can harass you through minions with his E. He can effectively lane mid as a counter. He has outright insane damage that when paired with a stun from someone like
Leona is an almost instant kill. He's one of the safest ADCs due to the fact that he can Kite with a skill that procs on hits and lowers his blinks Cooldown.Lets look at that.
Mystic shot is effectively a 2 or 3 second cooldown.
Arcane shift is 19
use arcane shift, mystic shot
arcane shift is now at 16 seconds when the next shot is up, use it again and its now at 13 seconds instead of where in this time it would be around 16 seconds.
This makes his blink extremely easy to use, in my opinion stronger than rocket jump which requires a kill to use, now when you think about it, Tristana running from a group of four enemies isn't going to get that kill to make it count, so someone with an effective gap closer will get to her easier than they will ezreal. Tristana won't have a Tforce to proc a slow on, so even if they do catch Ezreal he STILL will be able to get away better.
...Yeah, Ezreal looks pretty damn broken to me.
Karthus, Shen, Draven, Ashe, Soraka and Gangplank. But more importantly, what's so great about global ultis anyway? It's a skillshot on Ez, so it does nothing if you miss it. And if you hit it, you deserve it, tbh.Ez is also very mana hungry until he gets
Sheen or Trinity Force (unless you're silly and go Manamune) so even if the CD is off on Arcane Shift, there isn't a guarantee you can use it. But I do agree that Arcane Shift is probably what makes Ez most dangerous. If you nerf that, then I don't think Ez needs anything else that requires a major change. And why shouldn't it be stronger than Tristana's Rocket Jump?In addition:
http://www.lolking.net/champions/ezreal#statistics
Despite all this crying that Ez is broken, he still only wins around 55% of his games, even in Platinum level. Broken? Hardly.
Yeah he's not broken by any means, just a bit better than everyone else.
Imo if you really have to nerf him:
-Increase Arcane Shift cooldown and/or mana costs a bit.
-Reduce the AS change on Essence Flux at least at low ranks.
-Revert the buff to Mystic Shot or maybe even remove the CDR on hit.
There's no need to nerf him too hard, if they do it'll just be Corki vs Graves in every single bot lane again. His damage is already low-ish.
Imo if you really have to nerf him:
-Increase
Arcane Shift cooldown and/or mana costs a bit.-Reduce the AS change on
Essence Flux at least at low ranks.-Revert the buff to
Mystic Shot or maybe even remove the CDR on hit.There's no need to nerf him too hard, if they do it'll just be
Corki vs Graves in every single bot lane again. His damage is already low-ish.
Luther i think shuru was factoring in the mystic shot cd in tandem with the arcane shift cd. Meaning you use shift, 18 seconds, use mystic shot coupled with medium to long travel time and now shift is at 16 wait for mystic shot cd etc....or something.
Edit: looks like my post is too late
Edit 2: nerf arcane shift
Buff some small things on most other adc's.
Some adc's need a bit of a rework...when i say "some" i really just mean Ashe needs to be updated her mechanics are falling behind player's capabilities. Ashe used to be a super strong pick and had a great ulti to initiate fights. But now she cant keep up against graves, corki, ez...hell she cant keep up with anyone which is sad because she's probably my favorite ad simply based on her asctetics.
Edit: looks like my post is too late
Edit 2: nerf arcane shift
Buff some small things on most other adc's.
Some adc's need a bit of a rework...when i say "some" i really just mean Ashe needs to be updated her mechanics are falling behind player's capabilities. Ashe used to be a super strong pick and had a great ulti to initiate fights. But now she cant keep up against graves, corki, ez...hell she cant keep up with anyone which is sad because she's probably my favorite ad simply based on her asctetics.
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GrandmasterD wrote:
Partially agreed. The fotm thing is absolutely true and is kinda silly in this community. However, some AD's could use some buffs imo. Kog and Vayne could use a small buff to their laning phase and Corki could use some mana sustain buffs. Seriously, Corki has crazy mana costs and insanely low regenration and max mana.
MF gave a whole new definition to the expression '' Mana Hungry''. Oh you used your ult? So sad that you can't use any other spells. Oh you used your W to block enemy Heal and Double-up? So sad that you can't ult now. Seriously, MF would be a much stronger adc if Riot buffed her mana cost. It's kinda crazy at the moment.
Tl;Dr: Riot should remove the cd thing about Ez's Q. Or make it so it only reduces CD if it hits a CHAMPION, not everything. Nerfing his E into oblivion would kill AP Ezreal, wich is kinda of lame since AP Ezreal is so fun and is still pretty good (at my pro ELO of course)
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JEFFY40HANDS wrote:
But yes this idea has been discussed more than Pam Anderson's tits in a plastic surgeons office.
Nerfing the CD wouldn't do anything to AP Ez aside from make him choose his "engages" wisely....I mean you harass with his W/Q....Use E to gap close and deal some additional damage. Nerfing the CD in the early ranks wouldn't "ruin" anything for AP Ez...
JEFFY40HANDS wrote:
Nerfing the CD wouldn't do anything to AP Ez aside from make him choose his "engages" wisely....I mean you harass with his W/Q....Use E to gap close and deal some additional damage. Nerfing the CD in the early ranks wouldn't "ruin" anything for AP Ez...
Nerfing to CD to far in the 20's would hurt AP ez quite hard. It's like giving
Kassadin's Null Sphere a 15 second cool down; it ruins the playstyle that fits the champion. In my opinion it's just Ez's Q that makes him so strong. That was the part that was buffed before he became fotm. The fact you can spam his Q without real punishment means that he can keep the CD's on his other spells really low.Nerf the mana cost/CD/range or remove/nerf the CD reduce.
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