Aparently the costs to build tanky is going up...

[quote=throatslasher]That's pretty much how I build talon. CD boots, last whisper, 3x BT, GA. Press R for penta. Also, I'd just like to see GA cost go up by like 600. I'm sick of seeing irelia get TF and GA and become unkillable at like 23 minutes.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=throatslasher] That's pretty much how I build talon. CD boots, last whisper, 3x BT, GA. Press R for penta. Also, I'd just like to see GA cost go up by like 600. I'm sick of seeing irelia get TF and GA and become unkillable at like 23 minutes. [/quote] Pretty sure they want to just make GA the revive only and rip it's stats off.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, a new item which offers great values of Armor and MR while not having any active or passive would be an idea. Especially for champs which prefer resistances over HP. [h1]Plate Armor of the Army[/h1] [h2]Lore:[/h2] The Plate Armor of the Army is an old relic of the Demacian leaders coming from the rune war. It is said that it makes you immune to nearly any damage. [h2]Recipe:[/h2] [[chain vest]](700)+[[chain vest]](700)+[[negatron cloak]](740)+[[null-magic mantle]](400)+ Recipe Cost(860) Cost: 3400 (Cost efficiency: -500) [h2]Stats:[/h2] Unique: 100 Armor 74 Magic Resistance [h2]Hidden Passive:[/h2] Unique: A champ with "Commando" skin gains 1 bonus armor and magic resistance from this item. And the GA active? Well, make it something special. A thing like Aegis of the Immortal at DotA 2 would be nice.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=Vapora Dark] Talon has about as much multi-kill potential as [[leblanc]], I don't know where you're getting these penta-kill jokes from. Also, he's not OP. He's pretty easily countered, in fact. [/quote] No, he has higher, but I'm exaggerating :P I've seen him triple by going full-dumb, but as a support there wasn't much more I could build to stop the guy and the rest of the team was all "focus talon but ignore if [[amumu]] goes first". I never said he was OP. And I just said [[talon]] out of the top of my head, I could say [[Diana]] and thinking that something as simple as a Aegis is getting it's cost up so trying to slow down a frenzied Diana becomes harder makes me cry inside.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][[Talon]] is the only champ in the game which can build as Meele 100% AD. And that is basically what makes him so special.[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher][quote=NicknameMy] [[Talon]] is the only champ in the game which can build as Meele 100% AD. And that is basically what makes him so special. [/quote] Pantheon, to a lesser effect. boots, brutalizer, BT, last whisper, GA, FM = devastating.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]Shaco, Tryn, Fiora, Rengar, Sion But regarding stealth champs: Either this non-perm stealth gets reduced to max 1sec in ANY situation/on any champ or if they come up with more of them kin the future they have to work on stealth detection.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][[Shaco]]? There is a reason why [[shaco]] is no threat late instead of [[Talon]]. [[tryndamere]]? Okay, the ult, but he can't do things that well like [[talon]]. [[Fiora]]? Meh, I would prefer real Juggernaut Omnislash. [[Rengar]]? Nerfed to shit.. [[Sion]]? A good [[sion]] gets [[warmog's armor]] or [[frozen mallet]] to increase the power of [[atma's impaler]].[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]Doesnt matter, we are talking about champs who can be built full AD and do something with it, not how you see them.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Tank Shaco is best Shaco. Wut is this full AD you're talking about?[/quote]