Mid-Wick (The AP carry story)

[quote=Meiyjhe]I tried playing Warwick AP mid lately. It worked pretty decent, but I see a lot of items that might work on him. I have no idea what would be best on him, or if he even would be viable in ranked. Any opinions? :D[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Hmm, [[nashor's tooth]], [[sorcerer's shoes]], [[malady]], [[rabadon's deathcap]], [[rod of ages]], [[lich bane]]? [[hungering strike]] is a really dangerous ability. 16% of max HP + 100% ap, wtf? And with [[malady]] + [[spellsword]] + [[lich bane]] = OP [[infinite duress]] (and applies 5 stacks of [[malady]]). Also [[eternal thirst]] scales with mpen. Kill combo: [[infinite duress]] + instant [[lich bane]], then [[hungering strike]] + [[lich bane]] AA. Base Damage calculation: 5*48+84*5+15*6+16 = 766 Ratio calculation magic damage: 15*6+75*2+100 = 340% AP 40%*5 = 200% bonus AD % HP bonus: 16% Ratio calculation physical damage: 100% AD Build has 558 AP, 0 bonus AD and 118 AD Final damage against 2000 HP target: 2938.2 magic damage, 118 physical damage, 3101.2 total damage Final damage against 3000 HP target: 3143.2 magic damage, 118 physical damage, 3261.2 total damage 2.203 AS with [[hungering strike]], means auto attacking is very effective aswell, especially with so much on-hit effects. AA dmg per second: 2.203*(118+16*x+15+83.7) = 2.203*(216+16*x) = 475.848+35.248*x (x=stacks of [[eternal thirst]]) I would still play it on top lane, mid lane your range disadvantage completly screws you. Or jungle him. BTW: [quote]The lifesteal from [[Infinite Duress]] affects magic damage on-hit effect items such as [[Malady]] or [[Wit's End]], unlike normal lifesteal. It is uncertain whether additional lifesteal stacks and works alike with the 30% lifesteal from this ability.[/quote] Means [[lich bane]] burst heals you if you activate your ultimate, remember that.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]AS isn't really all that viable if it doesn't provide something else to him like Wit's does. It's best to go AP tanky with like, some AP and lots of resistances. Bulwark is good. I don't think he's -that- viable though since he doesn't provide a lot of teamfighting like AD WW does.[/quote]

[quote=lumpor]Take advantage of the fact that his q is a short cooldown, single target, direct damage spell and get rylais for da slows. And then I'd get liandry's torment cause it's rylai's best bud. I wouldn't really focus on on-hit effects, since they're not affected by ap. Then get lich bane, if it indeed does work with his passive. Then I'd get hextech revolver, then spirit visage (it's been buffed to 20% cdr, to keep the enemy slowed and liandry'd). After that I'd finish with gunblade so for the added slow to help liandry's.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][[malady]] and [[lich bane]] are on-hit effects which scale with AP and are the only ones I use in my build. Nashor's mainly for the CDR but AP and AS are nice aswell. [[malady]] to make the ultimate deal epic damage. [[rod of ages]] for a good base survivability and mana in the lane, [[lich bane]] because the [[lich bane]] ult combo and one of the highest additional damage tools for him. [[rabadon's deathcap]] is a nobrainer. For boots, either [[sorcerer's shoes]] if you have access to blue or [[ionian boots of lucidity]] if not. If you don't like AS that much you can also get [[deathfire grasp]] instead of [[nashor's tooth]]. This way, you are more burst orientated. Especially the ultimate will then deal so much damage. But, of course, your CDR suffers from that. I don't like [[rylai's crystal scepter]] that much because he already gains MS if the enemy is below 50% of HP, which means, he can normally stick to targets with ease.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]imo get [[muramana]]. It actually procs twice each auto-attack because of your passive, and I think 3 times if you ult. It really burns out your mana though :p[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]With [[muramana]] I would rather build a tanky WW with very much mana, not AP WW. AP WW depends onto AP because it is what heals him. [items=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/item-purchase-planner#&item=157-145-82-81-162-150-176][/quote]

[quote=DarkPercy][quote=NicknameMy] Hmm, [[nashor's tooth]], [[sorcerer's shoes]], [[malady]], [[rabadon's deathcap]], [[rod of ages]], [[lich bane]]? [[hungering strike]] is a really dangerous ability. 16% of max HP + 100% ap, wtf? And with [[malady]] + [[spellsword]] + [[lich bane]] = OP [[infinite duress]] (and applies 5 stacks of [[malady]]). Also [[eternal thirst]] scales with mpen. Kill combo: [[infinite duress]] + instant [[lich bane]], then [[hungering strike]] + [[lich bane]] AA. Base Damage calculation: 5*48+84*5+15*6+16 = 766 Ratio calculation magic damage: 15*6+75*2+100 = 340% AP 40%*5 = 200% bonus AD % HP bonus: 16% Ratio calculation physical damage: 100% AD Build has 558 AP, 0 bonus AD and 118 AD Final damage against 2000 HP target: 2938.2 magic damage, 118 physical damage, 3101.2 total damage Final damage against 3000 HP target: 3143.2 magic damage, 118 physical damage, 3261.2 total damage 2.203 AS with [[hungering strike]], means auto attacking is very effective aswell, especially with so much on-hit effects. AA dmg per second: 2.203*(118+16*x+15+83.7) = 2.203*(216+16*x) = 475.848+35.248*x (x=stacks of [[eternal thirst]]) I would still play it on top lane, mid lane your range disadvantage completly screws you. Or jungle him. BTW: [quote]The lifesteal from [[Infinite Duress]] affects magic damage on-hit effect items such as [[Malady]] or [[Wit's End]], unlike normal lifesteal. It is uncertain whether additional lifesteal stacks and works alike with the 30% lifesteal from this ability.[/quote] Means [[lich bane]] burst heals you if you activate your ultimate, remember that. [/quote] I know that quote comes from LoL Wiki but I seriously really doubt it's accurate. Everytime I've seen a [[warwick]] with no lifesteal but multiple on-hit items, his ult heals him for nothing...[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, there is also a comment at the wiki, that it should work. Remember, only magic damage on-hit items. [quote]It was insane. With only Muramana and Blade of the Ruined King (and Merc treads + Spirit Visage) I could literally walk mid, use my ulti on Ahri who has full HP and kill her using only ulti and ignite. [/quote][/quote]

[quote=Bellpepper][[Hungering Strike]] clearly states, that it hits the enemy [b]for the greater value between[/b] the 16% max HP OR the AP damage. And with all the health stackers now, you can guess which value will work. Also [[Malady]] is terrible compared to [[Wit's End]][/quote]