Jaz and Tiamat/Ravenous Hydra

[quote=NicknameMy][quote=sirell] I'm told [[Hextech Gunblade]] should NOT be the first item you finish, or even start. :S [/quote] That was S2, not S3. In S3, you rush it. [[Trinity force]] is useless, it got a hard nerf and [[guinsoo's rageblade]] does everything better for a way cheaper price. Of course, [[blade of the ruined king]] is also a must on him. Finally, you want for your defense HP, so a [[giant's belt]] into either [[warmog's armor]] or [[randuin's omen]] is good aswell. Also, he is now a great jungler. Also, [[guardian angel]] is a must on him aswell.[/quote]

[quote=Bomazon]Well, after testing your theory of Ravenous Hydra, It ABSOLUTELY DOES WORK. It leaves him a tad bit squishy but will 100-0 almost everyone on the entire team.[/quote]

[quote=DotAliscious]I'm know I'm showing up late to the party, but [[Jax]] is my favorite champion so I thought I'd give my $0.02 about him in S3. First off, [[Blade of the Ruined King]] is an excellent item on him, but I wouldn't say it's better than a [[Hextech Gunblade]]. The [[Leap Strike]], [[Empower]] and the proc from [[Grandmaster's Might]] combo will deal significantly less damage with [[Blade of the Ruined King]] than it does with [[Hextech Gunblade]] because they scale mainly off ability power. The trade off is that your auto attacks will be much faster and the active on the item is better. Picking between them is situational, but you should rush a [[Bilgewater Cutlass]] regardless of which you decide on. Secondly and important to this specific topic is that [[Ravenous Hydra]] is quite good on Jax under certain circumstances. I would never rush it and wouldn't consider it for my second item either. It's very effective in games that have 3+ melee champs on both sides because people will group up more and it's harder to focus Jax. Since it's harder for them to focus you, the sustain easily makes up for durability lost and the frequent AoE damage is awesome. I wouldn't get Hydra until you have your BotRK/Gunblade and an attack speed item like [[Guinsoo's Rageblade]], [[Trinity Force]] or [[Zephyr]]. As an aside, I love [[Zephyr]]. I get [[Boots of Swiftness]] and coupling that with the defensive masteries and Zephyr you are difficult to CC -- important for Jax.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Da necro. The necro with crappy information. zzz[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh]I like [[Zephyr]] too!!!!!11!11!1 Honestly though, love building it on [[Jax]] and [[Kayle]].[/quote]

[quote=rudyards]It helps split pushing a bit, but waveclear isn't a major issue for Jax anyway.[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh]AS, CDR, 10% MS, Tenacity. Splitpushing, chasing, more skill usage, more AAs to proc ulti. Although I have to say I almost never see it in play because I switch [[Mercury's Treads]] out for [[Zephyr]], so the game has to be long as hell.[/quote]

[quote=rudyards]I was saying for Tiamat. Zephyr is pretty great on Jax.[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh]Since this has been necro'd, gonna take advantage of this thread and ask something that has been bugging me about [[Jax]]. Nobody seems to build [[Sunfire Cape]] on him. People go for [[Warmog's Armor]] even though he's an in-your-face all the time champion, which makes the damage proc from the cape valuable. HP and Armor to boot? Awesome. Why? Also, title says Jaz, just noticed.[/quote]

[quote=rudyards]He gets enough free armor from his ulti that it makes more sense to get straight HP due to the diminishing return nature of armor.[/quote]