General Questions Concerning Jungle

[quote=sirell]So my questions started [url=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/question/ap-amumu-or-tanky-amumu-or-something-else-515]here[/url]. But then I realised I had more questions to ask. [[amumu]]: What masteries to take? I've tried 0/21/9, 0/9/21 and something like 9/12/9, but I really can't tell what's ideal. And while we're on the topic, what runes? [[nocturne]]: What do I buy on him? I often go [[spirit of the ancient golem]] and [[blade of the ruined king]]/[[ravenous hydra]] on him, but other than that, I generally get stuck on what to buy for him. Nothing really seems to jump out as synergising with his kit.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]i can answer for [[Nocturne]] after hydra(i personally like to sit on just a brut if anything, hydra is good too) you want to get tank items, SV, Randuins etc, also boots and whatever last item you need/want you can build a wtf offensive nocturne but i personally like a tank nocturne with the only offensive item being brut/hydra[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]Generally speaking, when wanting some universal runes for junglers, you can't go wrong with [[greater seal of armor]] and [[greater glyph of magic resist]] (flat for early skirmishes, or scaling for late game). Marks come down to whether the jungler is AP or AD; attack damage, attack speed, armour/magic penetration are common picks. A good universal quint would be [[greater quintessence of movement speed]], as all junglers benefit from being faster than their enemies when ganking.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]9/21/0 or 0/21/9 on Mumu, magic pen reds, armor/mR seals/glyphs, MS quints. [[nocturne]]; I generally buy [[Ninja Tabi]], [[Spirit of the ancient golem]] and [[Randuin's Omen]]. The only offensive items I really like on him is [[Doran's blade]]s and [[Youmuu's ghostblade]]. BORK is ok, but expensive, and offers no ArPen. I've seen Nocts build Trinity Force but it often fails cause the items too damn expensive. Spirit Visage is also a must, defensively.[/quote]

[quote=Kaggboer2012]i take 9/21 on amumu and for runes i take mpen, armor, magic res and movementspeed (atleast thats what i would use, but i dont have movement quints). with nocturne normally ancient golem, locket, randuins, sprit visage. you can get brutalizer if you get an early lead. not sure about assassin nocturne, prolly get madreds and sell it late and lategame build would be boots (prolly mercurys), hydra, trinity, last whisper, black cleaver and guardians angel.[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]Mummy: I take 10/20/0 masteries but I suppose 9/21/0 is more commonly accepted. As for runes, AS marks for jungling or MPen marks for damage, Armor seals, MR/lvl glyphs, MS glyphs for utility or AP glyphs for damage. Noc: Don't play him often, but I usually see others going [[Ninja Tabi]], [[Spirit of the Ancient Golem]], [[Locket of the Iron Solari]], [[Randuin's Omen]] and/or [[Spirit Visage]] as defensive items. Offensive items... depends on the game, I suppose [[The Black Cleaver]], [[Last Whisper]], [[Ravenous Hydra]], [[Blade of the Ruined King]] and/or [[Trinity Force]] would all work just fine.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]On Noc I go Golem BorK Triforce Randuins SV Or if I'm not that fed I skip triforce I don't think Hydra is that good on jungle Noc because you have enough AoE clear with Q > Passive, and you don't need the AoE to split push since you're usually an initiator and other items are better for diving carries.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Even though there are a lot of good comments already, figured I would drop one anyway: Amumu: hybrid pen marks, armor seals, mr glyphs (scaling/flat), movespeed quints - 9/21/0 masteries or 0/21/9, but I tend to go for 9/21/0. Noc: Pretty much what TehAsian said, but I tend to build a little bit more tanky when not ahead.[/quote]

[quote=SkidmarkD]Amumu: 9/21/0 MaPen - Armor - MR / level - MS-quints Golem - Tabi - SV - Randuin's Last 2 are up to you. Used to take Locket before they ..... 'changed' it. Noc: Not enough experience with him yet.[/quote]

[quote=sirell]Okay, great information, thank you all for helping! Next jungler/champion I now have questions about: [[dr. Mundo]]: What kind of a build would you recommend on him? I have currently been trying a 9/21/0 with him using MS Quints, MagRes Glyphs, Armor Seals and Hybrid Pen Marks. I've tried the 'Burn Build' with [[sunfire cape]] + [[liandry's torment]], also using [[spirit visage]] and [[spirit of the ancient golem]] (don't like Lizard Elder as it is) and it was quite effective later into the game, but I found that the early game was quite difficult to gank and secure kills. Any tips? Oh, forgot to ask for runeset for [[Nocturne]] as well.[/quote]