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Guide Information Should Be Optimal!

Creator: GrandmasterD November 5, 2013 9:39pm
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A guide should contain information that is optimal.
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tehAsian wrote:

It depends on the guide author's aim.

Some want to write a guide that shows the most optimal way to play a champion.

Others write unorthodox ways of playing a champion *cough OTG cough*. This is fine too.

But if someone writes down ******** and says it's the most optimal way to play a champion, that is not fine.


Right if the aim of the guide is listed in the title I can see that.

Example an ADC Ahri guide is not the most optimal way to play her, but if the guide shows the best way to play Ahri as an ADC then it's done it's job as a guide. You can always load up a different Ahri guide for mid lane, which in this context would be the best to play her
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Right if the aim of the guide is listed in the title I can see that.

Example an ADC Ahri guide is not the most optimal way to play her, but if the guide shows the best way to play Ahri as an ADC then it's done it's job as a guide. You can always load up a different Ahri guide for mid lane, which in this context would be the best to play her


That's exactly my point. Who am I to call ADC Ahri unviable? Although, when someone runs 4/26/0 masteries, I will raise an eyebrow.
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Authors who use the justification "it works for me" often can't explain "why" it worked for them, just that "it did"... (Then they brush off criticism that comes their way as "do what works for you"...)
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I admit I used to be one of those people. In fact I believe it was you, Astrolia who I was disregarding waaay back the first time I published my AP Varus guide. :p
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Lol, yes. You thought I had some personal vendetta against you.
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Hey! That sounds an awful lot like a lot of the author's we're talking about now! "You downvoted me, you're trolling me! rabble rabble rabble!"

I'd like to formally apologize for acting that way back then. I just read the review you had given me and I'm astonished I reacted that way.
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No need to keep it "anonymous". Those are my quotes and I stand by them. I also stand by my guides because that's the way I like to play my favourite champions. I'm not dictating the "official" way/mechanics of a swimming style, like the butterfly. I'm not writing a procedure for how to make meth, where an error could kill. I'm simply sharing my own version of how I play x champion.

Why do I run Exhaust on Nasus? Because I have had success with it. Why do I run Spectral Wraith on Warwick? Because I have had success with it. They are my ideas (not saying I created these playstyles, someone else very may have run Exhaust Nasus before me etc) and I enjoy sharing them with people.

This isn't about trying to fool readers into believing that xx is the best way to play xx champion. It has always been, "This is how I play xx champion, come along for the ride if you like".
Is it worth to sacrifice optimal setups to remain original?

It depends on what you're trying to achieve. An optimal set up on Ahri would be AP. But AD Ahri is frikken fun. Writing an AD Ahri guide would not be about "being original", it'd be about sharing how you enjoy playing Ahri.

I'm talking in circles here, but to end: that's why the scout system exists. To promote "optimal" guides. That's why featured guides appear above/before unfeatured guides.

Edit: And unlike the people who Astrolia mentioned, I don't just write "I had success with xx, that's why I buy it on xx", I explain my reasonings ^^
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Hey! That sounds an awful lot like a lot of the author's we're talking about now! "You downvoted me, you're trolling me! rabble rabble rabble!"

I'd like to formally apologize for acting that way back then. I just read the review you had given me and I'm astonished I reacted that way.

You made a much better guide later! Perhaps you should lead the New Authors Anonymous sessions?
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astrolia wrote:


You made a much better guide later! Perhaps you should lead the New Authors Anonymous sessions?



"Hello, my names OTG *the crowd in unison shouts "HI OTG!"* and... uh.. I used to be a real ****ty guide writer..."
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jhoijhoi wrote:

No need to keep it "anonymous". Those are my quotes and I stand by them. I also stand by my guides because that's the way I like to play my favourite champions. I'm not dictating the "official" way/mechanics of a swimming style, like the butterfly. I'm not writing a procedure for how to make meth, where an error could kill. I'm simply sharing my own version of how I play x champion.

Why do I run Exhaust on Nasus? Because I have had success with it. Why do I run Spectral Wraith on Warwick? Because I have had success with it. They are my ideas (not saying I created these playstyles, someone else very may have run Exhaust Nasus before me etc) and I enjoy sharing them with people.

This isn't about trying to fool readers into believing that xx is the best way to play xx champion. It has always been, "This is how I play xx champion, come along for the ride if you like".


I think the problem is that there is no clear indication in said guides that it's probably not the most optimal way to play those champions. New members will come looking for guides, see those high rated guides, look at the cheat sheet and assume it's the best way to play those champions.

There's nothing wrong with making a guide displaying your own unique way of playing a champion. There should just be a clear distinction between those guides and guides that try to be 'optimal', wether it's mentioned somewhere in the title or perhaps even a seperate category.
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