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How to make Bloodthirster a more viable item.

Creator: Searz February 21, 2011 12:35pm

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Damn, didn't realise it sucked so much
I had a feeling it wasn't that great but :/
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Yeah, I know Searz that it's UP and it's porbably worst item to get, but you made it OP xD
Maybe if they just remove 1 word from description, it wil be good ^^
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Noooo, just look at the graphs. With the +20AD it can compare with 2 cheaper items in terms of damage. It can't compare to them without the +20AD. That buff is needed.

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Apple and oranges ? If you go BT it's for lifesteal ...
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Yes.. But it's still underpowered.. The amount of lifesteal doesn't make up for the loss in damage and gold.
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Well I do think it does, it means less downtime, and this is extremely valuable for me.

The common case is after a teamfight you are almost dead, you can keep pushing, just because you will regen on creeps, and not force you to b.
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Your goal as a carry is to destroy the enemy team as fast as possible, not to be able to regen on creeps afterwards. Would you rather have 200 hp after acing them or 2000 hp with 2 of them alive?

So yeah, buffs are definately needed. I like the 2nd rework, it makes the item really different from the usual RoA/Warmog's incrementing concept. Bloodthirster really needs to deal massive raw damage, if not it's always going to be overshadowed by other items with mixed damage attributes, especially armpen.
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This is not my point ! I say there is a trade off, if you want sustainability you go for BT, if you want dmg you go for IE. This looks damn fine with me.

The thing that I agree, is the way the item builds overtime. Now it feels broken.
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BT is also inferior to other life steal items, so your argument about it being good if you want sustainability is not valid.
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I have to agree that Thirster might be considered a bad item. So far the only thing i would change is the cost of the recepie itself. 900g to make BF+VS into thirster is way too much imho.
10AD and 3% Lifesteal for 900g.

Still those graphs are made to compare dps, but you forget about the lifesteal? Ppl going for pure AD will make TBC or IE, but ppl tend to buy thirster JUST for the lifesteal. Atm there is no other option to get AD and lifesteal in single spot for a hard carry other than Thirster.

So i would change the cost of recepie to the value more or less equal item of Doran's sword.
200g-300g imho (coz compared to the doran you dont get the HP.
900g is way too much fot the bonus you get.

Ofc it has that stacking thing but loosing it due to death makes it questionable...
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