Man thx for the guide! GG :)

Deathfire on Zyra thunderlords is useless

Enjoyed your guide. Very well put together. I have been main zyra for season 5 and 6. There was a few things I have taken from your guide and it has definitely helped my win rate (currently 70% with 150 games). Couple things you could add is early dragon. Maybe everyone already knows this or I might blow some people's minds but you can proc drag to attack your plants for 4 hits and it makes early drag safer. You just need to W Q (do this twice) behind drag and it will attack plants instead of jungler. And with her new passive you can sit at gromp or golems and it makes for a quick leash and plants take damage instead of jungler. Just remind jungler to not let plants take camp. Once again great guide and appreciate the good info!

I started playing Zyra using this guide, and crushed every game so far. It seems like low rank players don't know how to deal with her properly. xD Most games I deal about as much damage as the adc, but in magic damage instead of physical.

I like that you explain her adc synergies and counters. What about supports? I'm curious about who to look out for, and who to use against her. I personally always countered her with Janna (playing super defensively with coin and letting the adc farm). I imagine that a good Blitzcrank or Leona could counter her as well. Also Vel'Koz and maybe Brand, but I feel like Zyra can beat Brand.

P.S. laning as zyra with adc teemo can be a lot of fun.

I have a quick question about runes. You listed two options, and the first option has significantly more MR than armor. Do you find that you need the extra MR in bot lane? I was just thinking that it might be more helpful to have AP in glyphs (or MPEN if you prefer), and still 2-3 armor quints.

I'm just starting to learn Zyra, but I'm basing this on my experience with other supports. I usually find that I don't need a lot of MR in runes for bot lane, especially when taking health seals (though it is helpful against some bot lanes that have lots of magic damage). What do you think?

I guess what I'm proposing would be a hybrid between the two rune sets. A little more damage than rune set one, but a little more defense than rune set two.

She feels really weird to play both as and against now. Her entire playstyle changed and she's not as dynamic as she was before. She has a very linear win condition now; you win lane and snowball out of control or you lose.

But yeah, I'm not a huge fan but I'm glad they got rid of her stupid passive.

Am I the only one who hates the Zyra rework?

Great guide for the new zyra. Maybe consider rod of ages or hex items since they have been updated?

Thank you for your comment!

I've heard your concerns, and I understand that some people do play Zyra like that but I solely play her for lane pressure on the enemy ADC and to then transition into an AOE mage mid game who can counter engage or follow up when my team is the one engaging.

I feel like Morellonomicon isn't actually necessary on her and I only build it in instances where I'm needing to rely on DPS instead of burst and the enemy has a lot of healing. Sometimes, the best way to kill tanks is to buy Morellonomicon because without the CDR your burst combo will barely do anything, but your plants will obliterate them with Liandry's Torment.

I disagree by saying that Ashe is the strongest ADC with Zyra. I do need to update the matchup section and also write a VS support section but I feel like the best picks with Zyra are currently Jhin, Kalista and Caitlyn because they can all take advantage of the burst Zyra has, and they have decent poke and/or trading.

Wards are vital to win. If you don't invest in a Sightstone and the enemy does, you may as well have not bought the AP or even an item at all because you're going to get killed in fog of war without being able to do anything in return.

Nice guide Zyra is my main too.
But i threat here differently.
I start with roots then Q then W, reason rooting helps your companion more, and in those first levels your not going to kill so its better for teamwork.

Another difference i go for ferocity attack items instead of the defensive ones from resolve.
BEcause well lets face it Zyra is burst E > W > Q

Main items on zyra are : Morenolonicom + Rylais cristal scepter; because it gives your team advantage of slowed down even if your E>W>Q misses a plant shot still slows them down.

And i think you should dive more into playing with ASHE, he's the top combo for zyra.
Reaons both play much alike your roots and rylais scepter + his slow; allow for easy escapes and great attack.

And dont ever invest into wards invest into AP

I recommend alternatives in the rune section (magic resist glyphs and armour quintessences). My playstyle with Zyra is high risk high reward, and I want to deal the most amount of damage as possible. Magic penetration is a very strong stat and allows Zyra to easily oneshot somebody with her full combo either when you hit 6 or you've bought Haunting Guise and Sorcerer Shoes. I don't play Zyra in order to survive, but rather deal a ton of damage in fights whilst laying down my Stranglethorns to either zone or CC important targets so my team can then clean up (which is where a lot of my deaths come from, but in return we get 2 or 3 kills and flashes burnt too.)

I said that games are never set in stone and if the player is uncomfortable using my setup then they can try the more mainstream and well recognized alternatives that I have mentioned in the guide.

Thanks for your feedback. (>^-^)>