About AP champs

[quote=Max Carter]What would be a good AP champion with nice CC on his usual skills? There are a lot, so, how people decide which to play? I like malzahar because of the silence and suppress ultimate... but IDK, what about brand? xerath? cassiopeia?[/quote]

[quote=Kazega]really just pick one. all of those champions have Soft CCs, meanign their CC abilities are Skill shot based. If are going for CCs then go for hard CC champs like Kassadin, Annie, or Fiddlesticks. you know what: fiddlesticks has 2 good CCs that he can use frequently. try him[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Soft CC is a slow. Anything else is a hard CC. Stun/Snare/Knock Back/Fear/etc.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=Lugignaf] Soft CC is a slow. Anything else is a hard CC. Stun/Snare/Knock Back/Fear/etc. [/quote] I'm not sure that this is entirely correct. From my understanding: Soft CC: Slows, snares, AS debuffs Hard CC: Suppresses, stuns, displacements, fears, silences Hard CC is the only way to interrupt champions from using attacks or abilities. Slows and snares only inhibit movement, which isn't really all that helpful when you have a [[Death Lotus]] in your face. Hard CC is necessary for interrupting or preventing most channeled abilities, as well as dangerous auto-attackers.[/quote]

[quote=Joobieo#41288][[Ryze]] has like a free stun, end game with CDR runes + Build , its pretty nice.[/quote]

[quote=Max Carter]I like [[malzahar]] and [[cassiopeia]] but cassio only have slow in QWE... malza have silence, but that poison really hurts, and that [[twin fang]] is very strong... don't know how to choose i don't wanna [[fiddlesticks]] because i don't like his style, and he's supposed to be jungling[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]@Psi: I listed snare as a hard CC because most people can't attack while snared.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]Um, all champions can attack while snared. Some just might not be in range. There IS a concrete definition for a hard CC. I'm just not 100% certain that mine is correct. I wouldn't call snare a hard CC against melee and not ranged, just like I wouldn't call silence a hard CC against casters and not autoattackers. It's one or the other.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=PsiGuard] Soft CC: Slows, snares, AS debuffs Hard CC: Suppresses, stuns, displacements, fears, silences[/quote] Yup.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]@OP it just depends on the game? xerath and leblanc and kass and malz are more counter carries, blowing up their 1 or 2 targets, raping their lane, having a silence and/or stun, but not raping EVERYONE like brand and ori in fights...brand if you need straight rape, ori if you need some extra utility on your team, etc just depends[/quote]