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Creator: jhoijhoi June 29, 2011 5:44pm
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Jungle Route: You should always start at Wolves and then Blue. There is absolutely no reason to start at Blue first. Warlemming will provide the reasoning for Tantrum first, he's the mathamancer.

Seraph's vs Spectral Wraiths: Seraph's has an active shield, which is nice, and some AP - this can be considered passive survivability. Wraiths gives you some AP and spell vamp - this can be considered aggressive survivability. I guess my thinking lies within Tear being a bad pick over Philo Stone or Wraith's build out of Machette.

Masteries: It does seem like a big investment - because it is. The jungle is bad enough as it is, you and I know that. Even if a jungler jungles the jungle for the entire early/mid game, he struggles to keep the same level as a duo lane and get's far less gold than what he should be getting. Awareness helps you gain levels faster in order to R gank earlier and hopefully net an assist to speed up your item buying.

Intro + Other Stuff: Well you don't have to remove ALL colour, just use it for emphasis. You have text bolded and underlined when you want to make a point - add colour to those as well/instead of. When you colour a paragraph, readers think it's very important, so they read it. If it's not important, they may get pissed off.

Other: He talked about the Tear and other things that were similar. Maybe I jumped to conclusions, I apologise :)
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I'll search around for Warlemming's explanation. I only start at blue because a lot of people hate leashing as it is; no reason to make them hate it more. I'll start at wolves when playing with friends or people I know well though. Thanks again for the elaboration.
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First off and biggest on my list of concerns, when did starting with Despair become worse than starting with Tantrum? Every jungle Amumu guide starts with this other than the #1 guide (and I think that was off of your suggestion). I'm certain it was the best starting ability in Season 2, when did it make this transition to be better? The only monsters you kill before leveling to 2 is the Blue Golem and its little lizards (at least, in my guide). Wouldn't the % damage (faster kill) from Despair more than make up for the little bit more damage taken? Or, more likely, is this because some will start wolves first, and then blue?


I can address this, with some mathemancy.

I'm assuming in these calculations that you have 10AP
Despair against blue golem (and this is the most ideal case due to highest HP) gives you 32DPS.

Tantrum gives you 80 damage per use, but this is more complicated because the CD is reduced every time you're hit. Both the wolf camp and golem camp have total attacks per second of 2, so Tantrums CD is 5 seconds, or 16DPS. At the same time, the 2 damage per hit means you're saving 4 health per second.

Assuming you got absolutely no leash, the higher DPS of Despair would save you more HP ultimately, due to the faster clear.

But since this isn't season 1, and we're assuming you'll get 1 or 2 people helping you clear early on. As long as you can clear the wolf camp in 15 seconds to go do blue (it takes 19 seconds by yourself with Tantrum), you'll get a better start overall with the reduced damage you'll take as a result of Tantrum.

Don't forget that Tantrum works on damage received AFTER resistances, so you can lower damage you take to very low amounts.
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Warlemming wrote:

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Ah, thanks! Much appreciated.
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Edit: didn't see shop status till i was flipping through. Shouldve put it in your first post.
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I don't need to do anything of the sort. People who have a vested interest in actually getting reviews would first check the quality of the reviews/replies before requesting themselves, thus finding my shop was closed to requests for now.
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I will come back here when you are done & +rep! Ty jhoijhoi!
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KingPudding: guide for Nautilus
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/nautilus-anchor-of-doom-280237
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The reason: To make my guide even better and to help others learn a really fun character.
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Name: Xylarboden
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Hello! I hear your shop is open again for a bit. Thanks in advance and I will reply when you get around to the review.

Don't know if you want some things to look out for, but I'll list a couple if it helps:

1. Formatting: I read a lot of books so I'm a paragraph kind of guy and big chunks of text don't bother me much. However, I can understand if it bothers others, so let me know if I should do something about that in my guide. Also, I try to highlight important stuff in orange. Maybe I highlight too much at times?
2. Content: Hm, I have no idea. You're the expert so... I'll leave this to you :)
3. Viability: Do I have a case for Randuin's Omen over all the others as a "preferred" defensive item?

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