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To me items like Cloak and Dagger, Haunting Guise, Moonflair Spellblade, and Tiamat are off-base items, in what situations do I get them? (personally I've never used these items that's why I'm asking)
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Cloak and Dagger and Moonflair Spellblade are there if you feel like you need tenacity, but not Mercury's Treads.

Haunting Guise? Say hello to Vladimir! I've also seen LeBlancs using it.

Tiamat... is there for the trolls. It has it's uses on Caitlyn - back when I was just trolling (not level 30 :P) I actually had a kill using my ult, someone stepped in between but thanks to the splash my target died anyways XD

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People don't know but, Tiamat is a strong item. It needs minor buffs in the AD department but, it could really be strong. It's a good "losing" item because it helps farm and push really fast. It's pro on Twitch because of his ult. Applies the splash on every hit when it passes through.
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When I saw that Ionic Spark was coming to summoner's rift I wondered how effective combining Tiamat with that would be with all that splash damage
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People don't know but, Tiamat is a strong item. It needs minor buffs in the AD department but, it could really be strong. It's a good "losing" item because it helps farm and push really fast. It's pro on Twitch because of his ult. Applies the splash on every hit when it passes through.

Just get 2 Tiamats. 100%/70% splash never hurt nobody.
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Just get 2 Tiamats. 100%/70% splash never hurt nobody.


hmmmm.... gettin my brain a churnin on certain champions... I can see this being useful on characters like Tristana since she already does splash damage
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Moonflair Spellblade is a great item for casters who need sorcerer's boots to be adequate and get stunned/focused a lot. Kassadin, for example, is two hits from death if he gets stunned and focused in late game and an item like the Spellblade could save his life.

The Haunting Guise is a good item only if the enemy team buys MR like crazy and you need this +20 magic pen to deal a good amount of damage. Void staff does it's job better, but in early game, if you combine it with boots, it negates a negatron cloak. Unfortunately, this item is on the recommended list on LeBlanc, which makes people think it's good even if the enemy doesn't have any bonus MR -.-

I can only think of Jax as a champion who really needs Cloak and Dagger. Everyone else can just take Mercs and get the missing AS/CDR/Armor from other items.
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When I saw that Ionic Spark was coming to summoner's rift I wondered how effective combining Tiamat with that would be with all that splash damage


I think not, Tiamat triggers damage on nearby enemies, but does not increase attack count.
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When I saw that Ionic Spark was coming to summoner's rift I wondered how effective combining Tiamat with that would be with all that splash damage

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I think not, Tiamat triggers damage on nearby enemies, but does not increase attack count.


Well no but Ionic Spark gives you 50% increased AS, but I'm talking about how ridiculous the splash damage would be because of it's passive, imagine a carry who could do all the damage to every target simply by attacking one target! that would be crazy, not saying it would work at all, just a hypothesis :) It would probably only work on characters that already have aoe effects and are AD melee characters because of Tiamat's effect.
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Pro advice tiamat not good on Twitch. I do get one if the game is a 90% or more chance to lose in first 20 minutes and enemy is pushing inhibitors. However this course of action has never really worked.
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