VexRoth - All That Is Ranked

[quote=utopus]It seems like you've been doing very well with [[dr. mundo]][/quote]

[quote=VexRoth][quote=utopus]It seems like you've been doing very well with [[dr. mundo]][/quote] Thanks! Yeah, I've been stomping with him in normals, so I finally decided to bring him into ranked. The buffs he got in Patches 5.8 and 5.20 definitely helped. [url= http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-58-notes#patch-drmundo]5.8 Patch Notes on Mundo[/url] [url=http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-520-notes#patch-drmundo]5.20 Patch Notes on Mundo[/url] Also some tips I got from Re4XN's Mundo guide smoothed out my early laning a lot. 1) You generally don't get going until you have a few levels under your belt so if you have to farm with cleavers do it.* 2) You can kill the caster minions with one cast of [[Masochism]] after they have taken a tower shot. This means I don't mind getting pushed into tower. It just lets me farm up and get my items with low risk and leaves them ripe for ganks and Mundo is pretty good at assisting with ganks since his slow has a very long duration. *Before the 5.8 changes to the health cost on [[Infected Cleaver]] anyone with any sustain could just body block your cleavers and heal up the damage while you yourself lost health. Since you get half the health cost refunded now if you hit your target and it costs no health if you kill your target, cleaver farming is much more feasible. I've also found you can clobber squishies even early game with [[Infected Cleaver]] AA + [[Masochism]] + AA Tap on, Tap off [[Burning Agony]] So that actually gives you kill pressure against the likes of [[Gangplank]] and [[Fiora]] even without [[Ignite]]. Then there are the [[Teleport]] ganks. Since [[Dr. Mundo]] has significantly decreased crowd control duration with [[Burning Agony]] active, I generally have good to great success Teleporting in and chasing down carries and supports. Pro Tip - If you are going to push your enemy laners to their tower, be sure to sweep or pink the lane bush behind you if their Top or Mid laner has [[Teleport]]. The other thing is that I pay a lot of attention to my health bar. With some health regeneration items if you run out of the fight before you die, you can always run in and out of range tossing cleavers at targets since throwing a cleaver can't drop you below 1 health. Late game 25% of a target's current health in magic damage is nothing to sneeze at, not to mention a 40% 2 second slow. If the fight keeps going your ultimate will probably come back up and then you can tear back into the middle of the fight and starting knocking heads. I have found that a few champions such as [[Rumble]] are simply more useful in teamfights if you are equal in farm with them, but if that happens and your team can manage it, you can just opt not to fight the other team. Mundo Warfare!!![/quote]

[quote=VexRoth][img=http://gyazo.com/5194dfe922e05fa121a272bdbc61be01.png width=700] [br] Runes: Hyb Pen, Health, MR, Armor Masteries: 0-30-0 [u]Summary:[/u] Note to self, don’t first pick Dr. Mundo or you might get the [[Vayne]]. She is incredibly hard to deal with and gets to basically free farm so she’ll be able to get her items on schedule. And if the rest of your team is getting destroyed it just gets worse. [[Ekko]] was a nasty gank combo when paired with [[Vayne]] as I was itemizing against her, not magic damage. The [[Vayne]] suggested I get [[Frozen Heart]] against her instead of [[Thornmail]]. Not the best pickup for Dr. Mundo, but I’ll try to remember that if I am against another nasty ADC like her or [[Quinn]] in Top lane when I am playing a melee champion.[/quote]

[quote=utopus][quote]Note to self, don’t first pick Dr. Mundo or you might get the Vayne. [/quote] I disagree, actually. I think that one lost game doesn't mean that you should unconditionally avoid first picking mundo. Looking at stats alone, you did well and the rest of your team played like tr4sh (heh). Also, if your opponent counterpicks you with something really weird and situational like [[vayne]], that's what I call a spite counterpick. I'd probably just ask for a lane swap, and REALLY keep the vayne out of the game for as long as possible. Note that had you done a lane swap in this situation, it theoretically should have turned out in your favor. You can farm safely relative to the vayne thanks to [[infected cleaver]], and while [[nautilus]] is running [[ignite]] to make turret diving you easy, your [[warwick]] is running [[teleport]] for some reason, which means that it's very easy for him to come teleport to the tower and set up a devastating countergank.[/quote]

[quote=VexRoth][img=http://gyazo.com/b570b65283f764e35cca14adb488ad7c.png width=700] [br] Runes: Hyb Pen, Health, MR, Armor Masteries: 0-9-21 [u]Summary:[/u] [[Fiora]] wanted Top. I told her to go [[Vayne]] against [[Dr. Mundo]]. She went [[Fiora]] against [[Dr. Mundo]], I told her good luck with that. [[Xin Zhao]] ran all the way into their jungle to kill a relatively low health [[Jarvan IV]] the rest of us should have had the good sense to let him die, but we didn’t. Two ranked losses in a row. Time for some normals.[/quote]

[quote=VexRoth][quote=utopus]I disagree, actually. I think that one lost game doesn't mean that you should unconditionally avoid first picking mundo. Looking at stats alone, you did well and the rest of your team played like tr4sh (heh).[/quote] It was bad. After my teammate's oh, about 10th death in laning phase, I had a strong feeling that this game was dunzo. But I did my bit of [[Teleport]]ing to save towers and getting some kills and a tower and a dragon IIRC after a really annoying lane at the expense of my tower. [quote=utopus]Also, if your opponent counterpicks you with something really weird and situational like Vayne, that's what I call a spite counterpick. I'd probably just ask for a lane swap, and REALLY keep the vayne out of the game for as long as possible.[/quote] I thought about a lane swap, but I didn't ask for it for three reasons...one of which probably isn't a good idea for a ranked game but...ideas...XD 1) I wanted to see how I would do against a markswoman like [[Vayne]] or [[Quinn]] 2) I don't know the [[Dr. Mundo]] vs. [[Yasuo]] match-up besides he can block your cleavers with [[Wind Wall]] 3) I couldn't remember if [[Talon]] was good in the [[Yasuo]] match-up so I figured I would let that play out As it turns out with respect to #3, I believe it is a skill match-up and our Talon was having connection problems so.... [quote=utopus]Note that had you done a lane swap in this situation, it theoretically should have turned out in your favor. You can farm safely relative to the vayne thanks to Infected Cleaver, and while Nautilus is running Ignite to make turret diving you easy, your Warwick is running Teleport for some reason, which means that it's very easy for him to come teleport to the tower and set up a devastating countergank.[/quote] Yeah, I don't know why [[Warwick]] took [[Teleport]]. I asked them about it champion select and they switched for 2 seconds to [[Flash]] and then switched back to [[Teleport]]. The inscrutable formerly Gold players toiling away in Silver..whadya do? In retrospect I probably should have asked for a lane swap as Talon would probably do better against a [[Vayne]] than I did barring connection issues. And I could have just built armor to survive [[Yasuo]]'s all in and kept him in check, plus been closer to our touched Bot lane to try and help them out.[/quote]

[quote=VexRoth][img=http://gyazo.com/18d7062bb459e671595b23ebca40f94d.png width=700] [br] Runes: Atk Dmg, Arm, MR, Atk Dmg Masteries:21-9-0 [u]Summary:[/u] Tough one. Made more tough by our team just not being smart. We had multiple fights were [[Sivir]] was farming a side lane and the rest of our team start a fight. Then there was arguing and sniping about that. How about we don’t start a fight if everyone on our team isn’t there? How about that? Late game the thing that cemented our loss was [[Sivir]] and [[Thresh]] trying to chase down picks, getting caught, and dying multiple times. [[Kindred]] is disgusting. With all the armor and other things I had she could chunk me for 90% of my health with about 5 autos. I literally couldn’t get anywhere near her without dying unless her attention was focused elsewhere. Kind of sucks to be build like a tank a feel like that does nothing.[/quote]

[quote=VexRoth][img=http://gyazo.com/76708f4b23978ca6808e5d4c0ff38fca.png width=700] [br] Runes: Hyb Pen, Health, MR, Arm Masteries: 0-30-0 [u]Summary:[/u] Kind of at a loss both literally and figuratively at the moment. I would take a game where we were only down three kills by the end of laning phase, this 7+ stuff needs to stop.[/quote]

[quote=VexRoth][img=https://i.gyazo.com/9b0ae6dfc096b5f24e53d156aa4e8693.png width=700] [br] Runes: Hyb Pen, Health, MR, Arm Masteries: 0-30-0 [u]Summary:[/u] :( Like WTF. Their carries were so far ahead by the time we started team fighting that I couldn’t even survive for very long. I didn’t play the lane as well as I could have against [[Fiora]], but damn I wan’t behind when we left laning phase. [[Teleport]] ganked bot and got a slow on [[Tristana]] and Blitz completely wiffs his hook. smh[/quote]

[quote=VexRoth][img=http://gyazo.com/8c6c926be819289ae05e777172da1971.png width=700] [br] Runes: Atk Dmg, sArm, CDR, Atk Dmg Masteries: 21-9-0 [u]Summary:[/u] And yeah, I may put ranked down for a while. I was actually trying to go somewhere other than Top, but that didn’t work out. Their [[Cho'Gath]] was pretty good and kept landing his [[Rupture]] early, though I figured him out and started dodging them. Another game where my team can’t come out of laning phase without giving up an insurmountable amount of deaths. Maybe I just need to play AFK jungle farmers like [[Master Yi]] and carry after I get my items. I think out of my last 6 games I’ve had a real shot at winning one of them and that is only a maybe.[/quote]