Best AP Mid

[quote=tehAsian][quote=GrandmasterD] Never ever lost to a [[Kennen]] with [[Kassadin]]. [[Cleanse]] + [[Riftwalk]] make [[Kennen]]'s abilities useless against him; and well.. [[Null Sphere]] shuts him down just as hard. [[Ryze]] is quite easy to beat with [[Kassadin]]. After, level six you zone him out hard. [/quote] [[cleanse]] won't deal with [[kennen]]'s level 6 burst. And trust me, you won't even be at half health, meaning [[void stone]] won't save you. You won't even want to get close because of the health difference. [[null sphere]] doesn't stop [[slicing maelstrom]] after it's been casted and prepared. It doesn't 'shut down' [[kennen]]. For [[ryze]] just grab a [[quicksilver sash]] or [[banshee's veil]]. Block/remove silence, snare, harass, that stuff.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=tehAsian] [quote=GrandmasterD] Never ever lost to a [[Kennen]] with [[Kassadin]]. [[Cleanse]] + [[Riftwalk]] make [[Kennen]]'s abilities useless against him; and well.. [[Null Sphere]] shuts him down just as hard. [[Ryze]] is quite easy to beat with [[Kassadin]]. After, level six you zone him out hard. [/quote] [[cleanse]] won't deal with [[kennen]]'s level 6 burst. And trust me, you won't even be at half health, meaning [[void stone]] won't save you. You won't even want to get close because of the health difference. [[null sphere]] doesn't stop [[slicing maelstrom]] after it's been casted and prepared. It doesn't 'shut down' [[kennen]]. For [[ryze]] just grab a [[quicksilver sash]] or [[banshee's veil]]. Block/remove silence, snare, harass, that stuff. [/quote] You assume [[Kassadin]] is stupid enough to let it all happen; if you assume that the one you are playing against isn't a complete retard you will find out that [[Kennen]] will never beat [[Kassadin]]. If you play ryze starting with 3k gold for the [[Banshee's Veil]] please tell me so; otherwise it'll take some time to get that and by then, [[Kassadin]] has won.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Wanna run it? :P I can guarantee I will win as [[kennen]]. As for [[ryze]] vs [[kassadin]] I'm actually not too sure. Just recently got into [[ryze]].[/quote]

[quote=CasterMaster][[kennen]] vs [[kassadin]]? [[warwick]] wins[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=tehAsian] Wanna run it? :P I can guarantee I will win as [[kennen]]. As for [[ryze]] vs [[kassadin]] I'm actually not too sure. Just recently got into [[ryze]]. [/quote] We are on different servers; I assume you don't have a level 30 EUW account? :P[/quote]

[quote=Vitigam][quote=tehAsian] Wanna run it? :P I can guarantee I will win as [[kennen]]. As for [[ryze]] vs [[kassadin]] I'm actually not too sure. Just recently got into [[ryze]]. [/quote] Interesting... If you guys do run it, I want to spectate or keep lol Recorder on. Imo, Kennen trashes Kassadin pre-6, but after I don't know what to do. I only went against Kassadin once, so I cannot assume anything from that. But if you can outzone Kass pre-6 enough that he doesn't have much farm, then maybe after 6 you can shut him down. Not sure about ryze, never went against a kass with ryze.[/quote]

[quote=Xaioli]Kennen auto attacks win lane. If you silence and try to combo him, he just stands there and autos you, stacking up his charged shuriken that adds a counter. W + Q combo = one stun. Popping ultimate is another combo that's guaranteed one or two stuns. Not sure what you're trying to say here. Ryze trashes people so hard after tear, it's disgusting. Range on Q is strong and the nerf following the patch is justified. Q+W+Q combo is way too powerful for Kass to handle bros. I've run the lane many many times.[/quote]

[quote=CasterMaster]I already stated that [[warwick]] wins -.-[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Xaioli] Kennen auto attacks win lane. If you silence and try to combo him, he just stands there and autos you, stacking up his charged shuriken that adds a counter. W + Q combo = one stun. Popping ultimate is another combo that's guaranteed one or two stuns. Not sure what you're trying to say here. Ryze trashes people so hard after tear, it's disgusting. Range on Q is strong and the nerf following the patch is justified. Q+W+Q combo is way too powerful for Kass to handle bros. I've run the lane many many times. [/quote] Never lost to either of them; I'm an avid [[Kassadin]] player and I have played the matchup many times.[/quote]

[quote=Xaioli]But Warwick gets beaten by other champions. THE CYCLE CONTINUES, WE WILL LIVE, THEY WILL DIE BY COUNTERPICKING.[/quote]