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So recently in ranked, I've been facing and losing to team comps with either nautilus, alistar, and a malphite in them. How would you effectively counter or play against them?
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You ban Alistar and Nautilus, you pick Rumble or Cho against Malphite. Problem solved.
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Try and take Boots of Speed first to counter all of Nautilus' Dredge Line (his pull) when he goes to gank. As for Malphite and Alistar you're going to want Mercury's Treads. If you're the main DPS for the team grab Madred's Bloodrazor and Last Whisper. It's important to not mix LW and The Black Cleaver though, it will reduce cleaver's effectiveness. All three of those champions are AP with heavy CC. Unfortunately Cleanse doesn't effect any of Alistar's moves, or Naut's ultimate/pull. But on the bright side it will minimize the slow from Naut's AoE Riptide as well as Malphite's Seismic Shard. Oh and they'll reduce the duration of Staggering Blow as well. Hope this helps a bit.
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Counter Nautilus by banning the **** out of him.
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Early wards will help, but they will still probably buy an early oracles and shut you down. People are pretty right when they say you should ban them. I normally ban Nautilus and Alistar, and yeah pick an AP top vs. Malphite.
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Also make sure your team focuses the carry not them. they are made to basically run in and disrupt your team so that's kinda hard, but try.

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Having a Janna as a counterinitiate helps a bit.

Otherwise you either punish their CC comp by stomping all their lanes (CC monsters tend not to do much damage, and there are several laners that can abuse this) or you ban or pick some of them so they can't get all of them at once.

I'd say Nautilus is the biggest threat. Alistar is pretty strong as well, but not as game-breaking imo. Malphite's good, but he can be counterpicked even in the jungle (just run a double AP with a DPS caster mid and he'll have a hard time. Ryze/Vlad is pretty strong against him). He's also much more reliant on his ult than the other two.

EDIT: Ultimately it's just a strong combination of champions. Stacking a lot of strong CC with a good amount of damage has always been a solid strategy. If there was an easy way to completely counter this, it wouldn't be such a powerful strategy.
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Nautilus is possibly the most broken champion ever released.

You might want to ban and learn him.
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ban ppl you dun wanna play. and yea. done.
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Problem with alistar/nautilus is that they pretty heavily punish stupid lanes. Over extend a bit? Dead.

Both vulnerable to counter-jungling... but in solo-Q screwing over their jungle isn't enough. You gotta screw over the lanes.

Wards. Get them. use them. Love them. if they get an oracles... then... play more passive.
Alistar especially is of the "need early successful ganks" camp. Doesnt get them? cries.
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