Brusier top, why I should skill defense, not...

[quote=NicknameMy]One of the questions I actually have is, why you want to skill deep into defense? Actually, the most high masteries in the defense tree are rather shit, if you compare them to offense. I mean, you only want to get [[resistance]], [[hardiness]], [[veteran's scars]], [[initiator]],[[enlightenment]] and [[juggernaut]]. For that, in the offense tree, you can skill, depending onto if you are more AP([[mental force]], [[sorcery]], [[arcane knowledge]], [[blast]], [[archmage]] and [[executioner]]) or more AD([[brute force]], [[alacrity]], [[weapon expertise]], (on some champs [[deadliness]]+[[lethality]]), [[vampirism]], [[sunder]] and [[executioner]]). For me, defense doesn't seem to be worth it to skill more than 9 points into it. What do you think?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Juggernaut is crazy good wtf loooool.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]10% CCR is fucking amazing though. If you build 3k-4k HP, that's 90-120 HP in one point of mastery. That's a REALLY GOOD COMBO LOL. 10% CCR and 90-120 HP for one point of mastery? Defense has perhaps the best T6 mastery of all. And where are the wasted points? Enlightenment is excellent, 8% CDR at lvl 18 is big time. Initiator is strong. Vet scars... Honor guard is good... I don't see where the wasted points are o_O[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][[Honor guard]] is good? WTH you are smoking? http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1489938 readed that? [quote]Without going into the gory math details too much here, you can generalize % damage reduction into the equivalent resist by using this equation: (100 + resistance)/(100% - %reduction) - 100 = equivalent resist. So when we talk about honor guard, let's say you have 50 Armor or MRes. Plugging that in with 1.5% reduction, we get 52.28 equivalent Armor or MRes. We spent 3 mastery points to increase our effective resists by 2.28... That's pretty lousy efficiency. If we go up to 200, we've gained about 4.57 effective resists. For 3 points. Uhg, I understand that this is a broad mastery, so we're gaining that much effective resists on everything, but again, the numbers just feel sooooo low. Best case it's like we got 2.25 points in each of our tier 1 masteries for the price of 3 points in our tier 5 mastery. This is just gross, the numbers need to be higher.[/quote][/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Idc what they have to say about Honor Guard. Reduction of damage is what you want on a tank. People would also tell you armor blues and reds are bad, but I use them all the time.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]If you're getting the T6 mastery in defence... you're probably a tank, just FYI. If you're off-tanking (GP, Jarman, Irelia) then you'd take a 21/9/0 setup. If you're full tanking, you take an X/21/X setup. (Maokai, Shen?, etc.) EDIT: [[Honor guard]] is better than [[Mercenary]] on solo-tops. Other way around on junglers though.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Naw I don't agree with that synopses. The mastery trees are too crazy and customizable now. You really can't say that a blanket 21/x/x mastery page would be better on any champion anymore. All case by case now.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]So, as a [[cho'gath]], which is same time tank and off-tank because of [[rod of ages]]+[[rabadon's Deathcap]]+[[frozen heart]]+[[force of nature]]+[[feast]]?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]God that is just a garbage ass item combination for Cho =_=[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, it is the old, before HSGG, build.(Who introduced AS-Cho...)^^[/quote]