How to make Mercenary/Sage fully viable

[quote=NicknameMy]Actually, at my [url=http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:NicknameMy/New_Masteries,_how_to_make_them_fully_balanced]big mastery rework[/url], i had an good idea for [[mercenary]]/[[Sage]]. They should scale with the level of the champion. Means, the exp of [[sage]] is also later in the game usefull and [[mercenary]] isn't only good for first blood. I also increased the gold of [[mercenary]] drastically. It was just nearly nothing to notice. Also, I moved both into utility tree T4 with 1 point needed. Now supports can use them with ease. Well, this also results into a buff to the ap-masteries in the offense tree, so ap-carries have to choose between offense and utility.^^([[Archmage]] gives magicpen instead of percentage ap and [[blast]] was multiplied by 4) [[Mercenary]] Gain 50(+10 per level) bonus gold on champ kill or assist(50% at dominion) [[Sage]] Gain 40(+20 per level) bonus exp on champ kill or assist(50% dominion)[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][[Mercenary]] is good for people like junglers who need those early ganks and assists. Sage however... Not really good at all for where it is in the tree.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]/dislike[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Actually, 24 gold per kill doesn't do very much. I think, even [[greed]] is better than this. And with [[sage]] scaling with level, [[sage]] isn't only usefull earlygame. Because at higher levels you need more exp to reach the next level.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][[Sage]] scales with time because people give more EXP as they level.[/quote]

[quote=mastajdog]awesome job! i think that that is a bit op overall for the masteries...[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Actually, with my rework, masteries are (nearly) as usefull as runes. And every tree is worth skilling it. And (nearly) every mastery is worth skilling it if it fits to your champ. One example: A support could skill 9/0/21: Offense: [[mental force]] 3 [[brute force]] 1(okay, as mage, you have to waste 1 point at tier 1) [[siege commander]] 1 [[sorcery]] 4(well, you have to decide between damage and supportive aura, well...) Utility: [[expanded mind]] 3 [[improved recall]] 1 [[swiftness]] 3 [[meditation]] 3(you can also use spellvamp, but i think mana regen is more important) [[greed]] 2 [[scout]] 1 [[summoner's insight]] 1 [[mercenary]] 1 [[sage]] 1 [[intelligence]] 3 [[awareness]] 1 [[mastermind]] 1 But, as you can see, i nearly didn't change the masteries for junglers at all (except [[fiddlesticks]] and [[maokai]], ap-junglers^^) Some junglers like [[amumu]] will get less dmg but the jungle speed doesn't increase very much. This should balance out the huge buffs to junglers.[/quote]

[quote=mastajdog]yea. my point exactly. looks good, but masteries have always been worth less than the runes. those have a very high gold ratio, relative to the previous masteries. and the season 2 were higher to begin with.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=NicknameMy] But, as you can see, i nearly didn't change the masteries for junglers at all (except [[fiddlesticks]] and [[maokai]], ap-junglers^^) Some junglers like [[amumu]] will get less dmg but the jungle speed doesn't increase very much. This should balance out the huge buffs to junglers. [/quote] I have never gone X/X/21 on Maokai for jungling I do a 0/21/9 setup and transition to tanking later. Mercenary is good here because I counterjungle and gank tons. IMO, neither of these need buffs.[/quote]

[quote=mastajdog]I've been jungling amumu and i go 0/21/9 as well. i think he's more viable that way. i agree with lugignaf, those are unnecessary.[/quote]