Less AP and build support? lols
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JunSupport wrote:
Less AP and build support? lols
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Do you think AP Janna is overall a better choice? I never been a fan of


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Is it possibly better to get







The reason that AP Janna is lackluster is because her skills aren't as oriented toward being an AP carry compared to Anivia or Annie. Everything about Janna points to an excellent support champion, so it's more of a waste to not play her like support.





Jebus McAzn wrote:
The reason that AP Janna is lackluster is because her skills aren't as oriented toward being an AP carry compared to Anivia or Annie. Everything about Janna points to an excellent support champion, so it's more of a waste to not play her like support.
I don't know if I would go as far as 'lackluster' though. AP scales well with her and doesn't necessarily exclude her support role. Consider a much more powerful





Cool down can be compensated with runes and items like

I would love to try a support focused build ( like some I've found here) but I'm afraid most of the time that's not possible since I solo que and its really a 50/50 shot if I get a good team or not. AP Janna can still manage to hold her own in a mediocre team - even change the game with pure pushing power a lone- as where a pure support Janna would crumble with the bad team. I mean I could play another champion but where is the fun in that? Janna is my favorite champion currently and the most fun for me to play and whether AP or Support ( or 'supporty AP') she is always useful on any team :).
Ap does scale well in janna. 0.9 with shield and 1.4 in her ulti (don't know the rest). But with an AP build you'll be lacking survivability or CDR.
Also, you don't bring that much to the team like other casters or a support janna would. You'd be some squishy champ with a strong shield and heal, decent CC and not very good damage.
If you did go support you'd provide more survivability to the whole team, the same CC, a slightish off-tank build able to take some damage and auras to boost their damage and yours.
In the end your team will do more damage if you're support than if you're AP, and they'll be able to outlive their enemies.
The big problem with support though is that if your team sucks there's nothing you can do. But if you play with your friends or are in higher ELO, you can be sure a support will make a big difference.
I have a support Janna build in case you want to see what one looks like. But IMO it's a big difference in play-style and you're probably better off switching to a stronger AP champ.
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Also, you don't bring that much to the team like other casters or a support janna would. You'd be some squishy champ with a strong shield and heal, decent CC and not very good damage.
If you did go support you'd provide more survivability to the whole team, the same CC, a slightish off-tank build able to take some damage and auras to boost their damage and yours.
In the end your team will do more damage if you're support than if you're AP, and they'll be able to outlive their enemies.
The big problem with support though is that if your team sucks there's nothing you can do. But if you play with your friends or are in higher ELO, you can be sure a support will make a big difference.
I have a support Janna build in case you want to see what one looks like. But IMO it's a big difference in play-style and you're probably better off switching to a stronger AP champ.
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Items go :
Then first I item I shoot for is
Summoner spells I use are
Runes look like this : 9x
I think this is well balanced and for AP Janna very useful as the Health and Cool down are invaluable. I'm thinking about changing out the seals with
Masteries are 9/0/21 standard caster. In utility I take
My abilities I take are typically Q maxed out first though I can change it up. I like being able to clear a minion wave when I have to or when I want to push really hard ( i.e. in a lane while their team is distracted somewhere - hence why I <3 teleport) Priorities are typically R-Q-E-W but I will be experimenting with putting Q off till last and pump W then R ( with ulti most important obviously) first. The AP Janna I use is strong in mid , solo , or duo lane , it really doesn't matter. The most important change would be how to pump your abilities ( i.e. if Xin is laning with me then R has more priority).
My scores are pretty decent. Since I've gone more AP focused I've began pulling myself out of ELO hell. I don't get many deaths , typically 4 is the max but on average 1 or 2 and I end up with some modest kills around 4 or so and usually 15+ assist , even 20+ on average. Hence why
I know her role is support but I have been finding (lately) that AP Janna makes a good support anyway due to her AP scaling ( strong shield , mass healing). I'm typically careful to position myself right since I only have barely 2000 hp with this build at lvl 18. The down sides are that unshielded this Janna melts to a couple bursts. I am starting to experiment with some more support orientated builds. I will let everybody know how that turns out. I think I've been rolling AP Janna because even in solo que she tends to do well even if my team as a whole is lacking in ability. In other words she can easily hold her own. However , I would love to do an awesome support focused build with the right team :).