What to build at Vlad at the moment - Discuss

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, I acutally search for the "perfect" [[vladimir]] build. Actually, [[vladimir]] is underplayed heavily, idk why. He scales really great into lategame, different from other ap-carries, and he can be godlike in lane after lvl 5. But his downsite is, that he has 0 burst... His Ult doesn't fit in any way to his playstyle(It is a ultimate for nuker...), and his E has a way too short range. Well, lets discuss about how to build him. I list some viable/must Items for Vlad: [h2]Must items: [/h2] [list] [*][[will of the ancients]]/[[hextech revolver]] [list] [*]These items give [[vladimir]] the health regeneration he needs. With that, he can just outheal anyone with Q and E. And he has superior lane control with [[hextech revolver]]. [/list] [*][[rabadon's deathcap]] [list] [*]Must have item on any AP-Carry. Even more at [[Vladimir]], because he also get HP from it. [/list] [*][[Ionian boots of lucidity]] [list] [*]Since the nerf to the cooldown on his [[transfusion]], [[vladimir]] needs CDR so much... He most time can't get blue buff because he doesn't have mana and lanes at top. [/list] [*][[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]] [list] [*]After the change to his [[transfusion]], that it counts now as a 1 target slow for the scepter, this item is pretty much standard on [[Vladimir]]. Also HP gets to AP and AP gets to HP.([[Crimson Pact]]) [/list] [/list] [h2]Situational items:[/h2] [list] [*][[Spirit Visage]] [list] [*]A great item for [[vladimir]] to counter magic damage at earlygame. It also increases your regeneration even more, so you will be unkillable without [[ignite]] or another form of debuff like that. [/list] [*][[Warmog's Armor]] [list] [*]Many times I see that item on [[Vladimir]]. Even the top rated guide features it. But, why? Idk... [/list] [*][[Void Staff]] [list] [*]Great item for [[vladimir]], because you can't get [[Sorcerer's Shoes]]([[Ionian boots of lucidity]] is a must have). This gives you the needed magicpen. [/list] [*][[Abyssal Scepter]] [list] [*]The AP-counter on [[vladimir]]. Also increases the damage of your mid lane carry, which should help your team very much. [/list] [*][[Zhonya's Hourglass]] [list] [*]The AD-counter on [[vladimir]]. Also one of the best active's in the game, if used well. [/list] [*][[Morello's Evil Tome]]/[[deathfire grasp]] [list] [*]Dat CDR. On [[Morello's Evil Tome]] you get more CDR, but on [[deathfire grasp]] you finally get a nuke, that synergies with your ulti. [/list] [/list] Ok, that are all good items (if there are more, please say them...). But, how to build him?[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]I consider [[Ionian Boots of Lucidity]] or [[Sorcerer's Shoes]] good choices for boots. Ofc [[Mercury's Treads]] are good on almost every character. He can't do without [[Hextech Revolver]], [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]] and [[Rabadon's Deathcap]]. That leaves you with 2 items. I'd prefer an early game [[Haunting Guise]] and you can sell it later on. As he is offtank imo, you will need some armor and MR. I'd say [[Zhonya's Hourglass]] is nice for Armor, and [[Abyssal Scepter]] or [[Quicksilver Sash]] as MR (Sash removes [[Ignite]], right? :o). Obviously you can make the revolver into a [[Will of the Ancients]] at the very last moment, I see so many Vlad's rushing it in laning phase... For the need of Tenacity, don't ever forget [[Moonflair Spellblade]] :) I once saw a Vlad who had CDR boots and 3x [[Warmog's Armor]] when the game ended, I wonder what other items he was going to buy :P[/quote]

[quote=Fox Rage]I usually go for [[Sorcerer's Shoes]]->[[Haunting Guise]]->[[Will Of The Ancients]][[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]]->[[Rabadon's Deathcap]]->[[Warmog's Armor]]->[[Zhonya's Hourglass]] I start with a tome, and make a fast haunting guise, then bootss, immediatly after i get WotA. Why you ask? Because WotA gives almost twice as much AP and spell vamp as an extech revolver, for only 900g more. Plus, the AoE will be useful in teamfights, if you have multiple ap champs. If they haev more ad then ap, get Zhonyas. If they got more ap then ad, get an abyssal scepter. If they have a balanced team, go for zhonya's hourglass. Because, IMO, Survivability > Damage[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe]I'm pretty damn sure you NEED [[Ionian boots of lucidity]] [[hextech revolver]] [[rabadon's deathcap]] [[Void Staff]] Anything else is highly situational updrading to [[will of the ancients]] is nice but not necessary as 1st thing to do after core I prersonally like to go defensive after core with [[quicksilver sash]] and [[zhonya's hourglass]][/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]rush [[Will of the Ancients]], get [[Ionian Boots of Lucidity]], then buy [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]], [[Spirit Visage]] and [[Rabadon's Deathcap]]. Finish off with [[Warmog's Armor]]/[[Void Staff]]. [[Abyssal Scepter]] and [[Zhonya's Hourglass]] work as well.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]But, why buy [[warmog's armor]], it is only HP and the HP>AP scaling is bad... It was nerfed to 25>1[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]It's the combination of items such as [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]], [[Spirit Visage]] and [[Warmog's Armor]] that gives you a nice amount of AP (with his passive) while still greatly increasing your survivability I guess. Not sure whether I would personally buy it often though, just searched for the old build I had for him which had [[Void Staff]]/[[Warmog's Armor]] as the final item. Don't play him often really :|[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, it is questionable since the nerf...[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]"(Innate): Every 25 points of bonus health grants Vladimir 1 ability power and every 1 point of ability power grants Vladimir 1.8 bonus health. These bonuses do not stack with themselves" That's what the wiki says :| I see your point, wouldn't get [[Warmog's Armor]].[/quote]

[quote=pasha]Id say zhonias and void are both a must buy on vlad, your opponents are always gonna get mr, if they don't, well they are gonna lose anyway and the active from zhonias will make you that much harder to kill. I don't like to play him tho since the Soraka change I'm just so scared of that match up, Vlad's range is just so bad, or Ryze...[/quote]