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The Fool's Adventures In Scrubdom

Creator: Foolamancer August 28, 2013 8:29am
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Thanks man. Now, on to the next game! Solo queue this time.
so hard.

Bans were Malphite, Hecarim, Blitzcrank, Elise, Vayne, and Kassadin.

I was last pick, and there was some confusion about who was going where, but I ended up getting jungle anyway, so Jarvan IV time! I especially love playing J4 in this level because of the free armor he gets from Demacian Standard. Teams are usually at least a bit AD-heavy, and he just rips up AD teams. Also because no one buys wards and they just rely on their built-in escapes, assuming they even have any.

Anyway. Aside from the aforementioned confusion, I was actually more than a little apprehensive about this game. Our AD carry apparently only played Graves in that role, which usually indicates a lack of experience. Our first pick instalocked support Amumu. And our third pick took Warwick top and bought no ward to start.

But whatever. It's Silver. Anything works. So I picked up my starting items and got down to business. Standard start: go to red buff so I can gank top immediately after getting blue.

Warwick feeds Zed First Blood before I get there. He tried to trade with Zed while standing in the middle of a massive minion wave, with predictable results. Not the most ideal beginning. But it's followed up almost instantly by our bot lane killing Tristana, so it's okay, I suppose.

Since Warwick is dead and Zed shoved a huge minion wave to the tower, I got some free farm off of top lane. Delicious, delicious gold. Afterwards, I went down to mid and forced Fizz to Flash out, and he only escaped with about a hundred health. Vi tried to gank our Nidalee while I was farming top, but she didn't accomplish anything, and Nidalee's ward caught Vi heading up top.

So I come in for the countergank, and between me and Warwick we force both Vi and Zed to Flash out, because even if Warwick sucks, Jarvan IV is a man.

Despite that countergank, though, Zed was getting ridiculously fed off of Warwick, whom I triaged after his second death in lane that didn't result from a gank. He lost his tower early on, and was 0/4 by ten minutes. He refused to buy armor or wards, as well. In fact, he bought a Null-Magic Mantle, for some ungodly reason.

Meanwhile, though, Vi had apparently decided that camping bot was the order of the day. She wasn't particularly subtle about it, though, and Nidalee was handling her lane fine, so I could just countergank Vi all day. Graves was very obviously not the best with the role or the champion, but surprisingly our support Amumu was actually very good, and between the two of us we murdered Vi over and over, along with their bot lane, and were able to get two early dragons and their tower.

Zed eventually left top to come try and roam, and spent a lot of time down bot trying to help Vi, Tristana and Lux force down the tower, but to no avail. Between my Cataclysm and Amumu's Curse of the Sad Mummy, they were just dying over and over. Zed threw away whatever advantage he won in lane by feeding me off my ***; I only died once during the game itself (my second death was by a misclick that put me on the enemy fountain at game end), and that was when I initiated on Zed and all four of them burned absolutely everything on me, which allowed the rest of my team to clean up.

Zed was the only member of their team that had any chance of pulling out a win for them, but the armor I built and the early Black Cleaver my kills afforded me sealed the deal. We took dragon after dragon after tower after tower and there was nothing they could do to stop us.

THINGS I SCREWED UP ON:

- That one death during the game itself could probably have been avoided. I got the job done, but there was likely a better way to initiate than that.
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Bans were Shen, Blitzcrank, Fizz, Lee Sin, Amumu, and Hecarim, because apparently the enemy team captain hated junglers.

As much as I hate assigning blame for this to somebody just making a terrible champion selection, that's pretty much what it was. Our Darius picked without knowing what the enemy top laner was going to be, and so, of course, got matched up with Garen. And our midlane went AP Nami. Both of these lanes can technically work - our Nami was actually pretty good, mechanically, and did some very nice stuff throughout the game - but they just didn't here.

I did the standard red into an immediate top gank start, which... didn't accomplish anything, since our Darius had dropped to about a quarter health before I could come in to gank for him. I just got some damage down on Garen.

Our Nami, meanwhile, picked up First Blood against Zed, so that was good. But from there things just didn't go our way. I got several good ganks in on every lane, but it wasn't enough. Every time I left top it seemed like Darius would die to Garen. For some reason he couldn't understand that refusing to buy armor and closing for melee while the other dude was a whirling vortex of knives and pain was a bad idea. So Garen was snowballing hard.

I was ganking continuously while Zac was doing... well, nothing, but it didn't matter, because his team was just sort of handling themselves. He was free to farm the jungle incessantly and come out of it an unkillable blob of Jell-O, which made tower-diving for an already fed team even easier.

We put up a hell of a fight, mostly because people realized that when I called for them to go for an objective it was probably a good idea. We got two dragons, which kept us in the game despite the fact that we had lost three towers, and eventually managed to push and take mid. But teamfights just didn't work.

Darius had no damage because he had been completely bullied out of lane, and any gold he got afterwards was spent on buying armor (too little, too late, sadly). I had no damage because I was donating all my kills and it's hard to get Black Cleaver on a jungler's income alone. And AP Nami is just not an actual damage source. She's a good utility mage, sure, but she doesn't actually do that much damage.

So Graves was our only actual damage source, while they had a fed Garen, plus a Zed and a Caitlyn. That's about the story of it. Nothing much we could have done. This was lost in the pick and ban phase.

THINGS I COULD HAVE DONE BETTER:

- This game was pretty much unwinnable simply because of Darius getting countered and us therefore having no damage, but I could have improved my performance somewhat by making fewer sloppy engages. Granted they were desperate engages made out of lack of options, but they were sloppy, and I died far too much this game.
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A great start ruined by a troll.

Bans were Shen, Thresh, Malphite, Caitlyn, Blitzcrank, and Morgana.

Our last pick didn't speak English, just French, but kept demanding top even after we already had a Lee Sin top. He ended up locking in "support" Singed, despite the fact that our Mordekaiser actually spoke some French and tried to convince him to play an actual support.

He then proceeded to feed the enemy Corki and Diana blatantly for the entirety of the game. What sucks the most about this is that we were stomping super hard in every lane until they each got about four kills. Mordekaiser picked up First Blood against Zilean, Lee Sin and I murdered Diana multiple times, Miss Fortune was outfarming Corki, and I even managed to pop Zac's passive within the first ten minutes by counterjungling.

We had a huge advantage in top and mid, and bot was holding its own. And then Singed started running headlong into turrets while spamming "AHAHAHAHAHA" in /all. He went out of his way to feed Corki and Diana off their ***es, and they snowballed too hard. Nothing we could do.

This will probably be my last game of the night, as I recognize that I'm on tilt now and probably should stop. Depends on how I feel after I take a break to get some food.

EDIT: Also, yes, that Corki was exceedingly obnoxious in-game as well. How did you guess?
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Thanks, jhoijhoi. I think I can make it to Gold, but it's going to be a hell of a grind just because of how much my MMR tanked from my initial losing streak. I'm getting closer and closer to breaking even from that, but I'm not there yet.

Anyway, moving on:

Bans were Amumu, Master Yi, Malphite, Shen, Blitzcrank, and Nautilus. I was first pick for our team and just banned what anyone suggested, as I really don't care.

Anyway. Standard start: blue team, start at red buff for an immediate gank top. Darius was smart enough to not push the wave beforehand, but he didn't know how Elise's Rappel works, and kept running towards her tower every time she used it. There were about three escapes that she shouldn't have had based purely off the fact that he kept letting her Rappel to safety off of him.

Hecarim showed up top during my second gank attempt there, and we ended up both posturing around there for a while. Nothing was really accomplished on either side by the junglers, but our Lissandra picked up First Blood on Veigar, at least. Bot lane was pushed to the enemy tower, which isn't surprising since we had a Caitlyn, and Lissandra was doing the same mid, so all I could do was keep trying to gank top.

Elise managed to kill Darius once in lane, so Darius was getting massively outfarmed and zoned. But I know how hard Darius snowballs, so I was set on getting him back in this. I was going full tank anyway, so if Darius could end up as a third source of damage, we would basically win on the spot. I eventually managed to get him a kill via a gank from the lane bushes that not only killed Elise by locking her into Cataclysm but got the tower as well.

Meanwhile, Lissandra was roaming down bot since she was just keeping Veigar pinned to the tower, and managed to kill Hecarim via a countergank. With that, we took an easy dragon, and followed it up by taking the bot and mid towers.

That was GG. We just had too much global gold. They never even got a single tower, Darius snowballed super hard off of that first kill, and their entire team was unable to even scratch me once I picked up Spirit Visage, so tower-diving was a breeze.

THINGS I SCREWED UP:å

- All three deaths here were entirely unnecessary. They didn't accomplish anything for the enemy team, because they were all me just going YOLO and 1v3ing because I could. They all hurt the enemy team more than they did me, because every time I did it the rest of my team was stacked up and taking another tower in the next lane over, but still, they were entirely unnecessary. I got too cocky. Can't afford to do that.
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I am currently loading into a game that was going well in champion select, everyone had their roles...

...And then our AD carry locked in Pantheon and our support freaked out, said "ADC Leona", and swapped Exhaust for Teleport.

This bodes well.
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Turns out that it does actually bode well.

I didn't write down the bans for this game, and I don't remember them. I do remember thinking that jungle Malphite sucks, and that their jungler would therefore contribute precisely nothing, and being proven correct. Malphite didn't gank for the first fifteen minutes, and when he did gank, he just died.

Anyway. Once we were actually in-game I managed to talk Leona into at least building support and just going for a kill lane, since no one at this ELO knows how to deal with a kill lane anyway. Since we were, again, blue side, I just started at red buff and went up for an immediate gank top.

Garen had no Flash, but he started with a Doran's Shield and Exhausted Kha'Zix as soon as I came in to gank, so he survived, albeit too low to continue farming. Following this I went down to midlane and handed Annie an easy First Blood on Vladimir, who was pushing mindlessly with no ward.

Meanwhile, down in bot, Leona got a double kill somehow. Apparently their Lux was lagging horrendously (or so she claimed in /all later), so Pantheon and Leona were getting free kills. I just camped Vladimir for about the first ten minutes, since Garen refused to back after the first gank and was pinned to his tower while bot lane was handling itself.

With Annie successfully snowballing I decided it was high time I tried visiting some other lanes, and I headed down bot because apparently Vayne was good even though Lux wasn't, and they were getting pushed back. I came in through the lane bushes just as Malphite got it into his head to do his first gank of the game. Easy triple kill, free dragon, and we stole Malphite's blue to boot.

That was game. My early aggression got top and mid snowballing, and bot lane worked out despite the ****py setup. With Malphite out of the game there was nothing they could possibly do to bring it back. They surrendered at twenty minutes.

THINGS I SCREWED UP ON:
- Attempting a dragon while I was low and lagging (apparently everyone was getting at least minor spikes this game). There was no chance of an enemy contest, but Annie and I had to juggle dragon aggro and I lagged out during one switch-off and got executed. Not really so much a problem with my gameplay, but it was still a silly thing to do. My other death was a complete bonehead play on the enemy team's part, since they burned four ultimates to get me, as well as two Flashes, and my team aced them immediately afterward.
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Most of these games are utter stomps in my favor. This one is the first ranked victory I genuinely feel like I EARNED.

Bans were Shen, Thresh, Fizz, Kassadin, Hecarim, and Blitzcrank.

I was last pick, but ended up getting jungle anyway. Our first pick was the Diana and obviously knew what they were doing with the champion, though first-picking her was a bit risky. I loved to see Soraka on the enemy team, though Nunu & Willump and Singed both made me very nervous and I've yet to see any Gangplank who contributes anything.

My pre-game thoughts turned out to be pretty much one hundred percent correct. Singed went immediately to proxy farm mode and was a massive pain in the *** through the entire game. My usual early gank against him got his Flash but nothing else, as he started with a Doran's Shield. And he bullied our Gangplank around for the entire rest of the game, with little that any of us could do to stop it. We lost top tower very early.

On the other hand, bot lane was handling itself, and Zed was hugely aggressive. He was buying wards but was very bad about waiting to place them until I was already waiting in the bush, so I got Diana snowballing early. Camping Zed was the order of the day, for the most part, though I did make occasional (usually futile, as Gangplank has neither the crowd control nor the damage to receive ganks early) attempts to put a stop to Singed's antics.

Nunu & Willump was the first Nunu & Willump player I've seen who actually counterjungled me somewhat effectively. He managed to steal away two blue buffs, though admittedly this was largely because Singed was in the area and no one could handle him at that time. However, he had almost no lane presence, and the loss of blue buff was not enough to keep me from murdering his laners. I made several trips down bot as no one ever expects a gank to come through the lane bushes at this level, and both Soraka and Ezreal were easy kills, keeping us ahead.

However, we lost our early top tower and multiple dragons, and mid fell in quick succession thanks to Singed using his Teleport rather smartly. So we had a huge disadvantage coming out of the laning phase: Gangplank was heavily outfarmed, Singed was an unkillable monster, and they had more global gold than we did. We were about four kills in the lead total, which is what kept us in the game.

Well, that and my warding. Since I never left base without at least two wards in hand, we caught out Nunu & Willump and Singed attempting an early Baron at about the 23 minute mark (yes, the laning phase did drag out for a long time). Diana and I were big enough that we were able to murder Nunu & Willump and force Singed out, giving us a free early Baron.

Diana and I were both very vocal and helped to coordinate the other members of the team, so we were able to turn that Baron into a very nice turnaround. We got their top tower, a dragon, and everything in the midlane including the inhibitor before it wore off. That put us back in the game, but we still couldn't really say we had a lead due to how many dragons Nunu & Willump had taken early and how monstrously farmed Singed was. No one really had the tools necessary to kill him.

Still, we managed to beat them at their own splitpushing game, since I had warded their jungle heavily and their team was very bad about showing their faces when they were in no position to stop us. Gangplank and I got the inner top turret during one splitpush, and Diana and I snatched the outer bottom turret soon after.

But their Singed was a ********ed monster this game. He was probably the sole reason this game lasted as long as it did, because he splitpushed like a boss and managed to take out all of the towers outside our base except for the inner mid tower, so we were still behind in global gold and Singed still had a monstrous amount of farm.

At about the thirty-minute mark, Baron respawned for the first time. The next ten minutes of the game were all about both teams Baron dancing, someone getting engaged on, and both teams taking heavy losses with no one left strong enough to actually attempt taking it. This was the point of the game where I probably made the biggest mistake; I was the one calling for us to try and take Baron, when we honestly should have just grouped up mid and tried to push for the win. They could have tried to take Baron, yes, but they would have given up, at the least, both nexus turrets for it. After about the third slaughter in front of the pit, both teams kind of gave up and wandered off.

From there, it became a matter of trying to herd the various other members of the team into something resembling a coherent whole. With Singed off splitpushing as hard as he was, we couldn't afford to sit around and not try to take objectives, but Gangplank and Varus were very fond of wandering off. And, to make it worse, Varus never bought a Last Whisper, so he did almost nothing in teamfights. This was despite both myself and Diana telling him how important it was that he buy one, since Singed and Nunu & Willump were stacking armor so heavily.

It became a war of the splitpushes for a long time. Singed and Zed took turns splitpushing our top lane, and actually managed to take the inhibitor and one of the nexus towers - but we got their middle inhibitor again in the bargain, and managed to kill Zed before he could escape, so we got to push in to the top lane inhibitor ourselves (though we failed to take it).

We came very, very close to losing the game at one point. Gangplank got caught out in the jungle near Baron, died instantly, and gave the enemy team a free shot at it. They took the buff and were all set to push in on mid and end the game, but by this point I was monstrously tanky and could survive diving onto Zed and Ezreal with Diana in tow. Somehow, incredibly, we managed to go four for nothing in that fight, and held out against what looked like certain death. The one who didn't die, by the way, was Singed. He just flat-out couldn't be killed because he had too much armor and Varus refused to buy Last Whisper.

The game ended when Baron respawned again and we caught Soraka and Ezreal coming out to ward it. We killed the both of them, took the Baron, and pushed in for the win after one of the most grueling matches I have ever played.

THINGS I SCREWED UP:

- As mentioned, I was the one who made the call to try for Baron as much as we did earlier. That was a mistake. Should have just pushed, and we might have been able to win this a hell of a lot earlier. Other than that, I did very well this game. Varus and Singed were the two reasons this took as long as it did; Singed kept their team in the game via his monster CS, and Varus' incredibly ****py build made it so that we couldn't do anything about that.

EDIT: And yes, I realize my CS was extremely low for a game that went on this long. This is because I spent most of the early game ganking continuously, the midgame acting as a bodyguard, and the late-game donating farm to Varus and Diana. I was full tank anyway and was nearly indestructible even with the limited gold, so I made a conscious decision to give as much farm as possible to the carries rather than take it for myself.
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Also, WALL OF TEXT HOORAY

The length of that post alone should tell you how much of a slog that game was.

EDIT: Another thought. I probably screwed this up in champion select. I was last pick, and could see their entire team. They were all (save Ezreal) pretty immobile during the early game, and Singed is going to become a super-tank pretty much no matter what. I should have taken Trundle against this team composition. I actually play a lot of him in normals, and I'm very confident with him. I just didn't see the opportunity here, as I usually don't think of him as someone I should use in ranked.
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It's really good that you're recognizing where you can improve. You will for sure get better quickly playing with that attitude and this much. Good luck! :)
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