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Why the hate on Shurelya's

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Well wanted to bring this up since, people on my Lux Guide, hate and with passion, hated the Shurelya's in my guide >.< And I wanted to ask everyone why? Its a speed boost, (So Ghost in an item). And really I get it as the last item, and Lux herself has no end game. So gotta make myself useful no? Beside the point, this is mainly the reason on why MAGES or any kind of champion can't get shurelay's? I get like people like Lee Sin or Jax shouldn't have that, because they need damage out put, but Some champions such as Lux, don't have a late game. And they have enough damage out put any ways >.< 601 AP is my AP at the end of the game with or without Shurelya's. Ugh RANTING

main reason: what champions should or should not have Shurelay's (beside support... They should always have). I never see a tank have this item, and even when the support does get shurelya's its super late. So why not?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Lugignaf » May 2, 2012 10:24am | Report
More damage is more damage. Lux needs the damage.

Tanks get it because it helps initiates and it builds from a GP10 item which most junglers/solotops will build.

Supports have it because it builds from philo stone. It also helps escapes.

Lux however...

She has range, a snare and a slow. You don't need another escape. If you want more CDR, get Morello's Evil Tome or Deathfire Grasp. Less so on the DFG because if you're in range to use the active, you're probably playing Lux wrong.


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Ik, thats why i don't get Deathfire Grasp, at all. Avoid it at all cost! But with the recent change to Morello's Evil Tome, is it worth it? I have no idea. And in general, i've disliked Morello's Evil Tome, just because its bad, because mostly you have blue most of the time. And late game, well it doesn't matter. I could make Archangel's staff and it would do the same no? Wouldn't that be more productive then building an Evil Tome? Lux has alot of CC Abilities, making her in less need of things like Crystal Scepter. The items I find not worth buying on lux at all are, Morellos, Scepter, Deathfire Grasp. That leaves me really only RoA, which takes my early burst damage out of the question, since it takes so long. Then the only thing that is left is Archangels, which in general... Is bad >.< So That left me Shurelya's. So really, what should i build D: She ain't like Xerath that needs the Scepter, since Xerath himself doesn't have much CC and has much better abilites overall for Longe range ***ult.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by IceCreamy » May 2, 2012 1:01pm | Report
DFG has 750 range, her AA is 550. If you want to proc that Lich Bane and Illumination it's totally fine. Actually I want to test it on her to see if I want it as core in my guide, so I don't have to get Ionian Boots anymore but I can just take the MPen and hold on with the Void Staff.

Shurelya's however is a bad item on AP Lux, simply because (as stated) AP Lux needs damage. If you play her as support (I hate everyone who does that...) it is of course a great item.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Arcana3 » May 2, 2012 1:08pm | Report
Well look at my build... I have ever good, viable AP option. The only other thing that would be viable would be RoA, which i stated, gives up Early Game Damage to build. It also takes a damn long time >.< So first 10-15 minutes of the game, i won't have damage. Though RoA really is a good item too, you don't need health on Lux... Most of the time. So getting rid of Rylia's too. I'm really thinking archangels is my last choice :< But what else do I have to get : /
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You can just do the "standard" AP build of DDorans->Dcap rush. Void staff, abyssal, WotA are all options. Same with some other CDR item because you are Lux.

EDIT: Oh, you do do that. Uhh... Yea. Morello's or DFG would probably be a great option for CDR.


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Arcana3 » May 2, 2012 3:18pm | Report
Yeah, those paticualr items however, are bad. Well just DFG on Lux, if i was LeBlanc i would buy DFG. Whats the issue on Morello's... I've had people tell me its bad, others say its ok. I personally don't like the item, but i see so many others use it. Can someone explain to me what is up about that item? Also Shurelyas give a 15% CDR. So it's not like im NOT getting any CDR. Also wasn't the cost on Morello's increased? With the new patch, i thought it now cost MORE then Shurelya's Am i wrong?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Lugignaf » May 2, 2012 3:21pm | Report
It costs the same iirc and it builds from a GP5 item. Plus, it has an active that reduces healing.


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by jhoijhoi » May 2, 2012 3:57pm | Report
I wouldn't grab it on Lux if they're not supporting. It's like grabbing it on Orianna, or Morgana - why do it?

Some tanks are fine with it, like Amumu, Alistar, Nasus. But I wouldn't get it on Renekton, Olaf or Irelia for example.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by PsiGuard » May 2, 2012 4:30pm | Report
I kinda like Shurelya's on lux if I don't go mejai's (as I told you before, arcana), but I think I'm most likely going to replace it with Athene's Unholy Grail as soon as it's released.
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