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7.4 Tier List + AMA

Creator: H4xDefender February 20, 2014 5:06pm
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Most full tanks are bad if your team falls behind because it doesn't matter how much damage you soak if your team can't deal any damage back.


Thats ******ed. When you fall behind you build tank stats on most champions because you'll never be able to catch-up in damage. Full tanks are far more effective when behind than someone like Jax going in and getting instantly blown up
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Mooninites wrote:


Thats ******ed. When you fall behind you build tank stats on most champions because you'll never be able to catch-up in damage. Full tanks are far more effective when behind than someone like Jax going in and getting instantly blown up


Perhaps I didn't explain myself well enough. What I meant - specially for soloQ - is that when you're playing a tank and your team is doing poorly it's really hard to stay relevant because a) If your team is doing poorly the enemies have more objectives, kills, levels (gold in general) and damage or even penetration, making them harder to tank and b) Your team has less stats, levels and items to fight back, so you enduring will not mean the teamfight will be successful anyway (not to mention that Sion's disruption isn't strong enough for things like assassins, in my opinion, because it's not fast enough).

I only meant it like that, I didn't mean "No honey if your team is losing get an Infinity Edge because that'll 100% help"
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Ahri feels really good now with the MS buff on Q which is very versatile, her mobility makes her practically impossible to hit with most skillshots. She's less reliant on landing a charm for dealing damage, and has a more poke based playstyle.

Hard snowball champions, like Jax, Riven, etc seem to be much harder to shut down with the removal of Deathfire Grasp. Pretty much all of the burst mages have been brought down a bit with DFG gone, LeBlanc probably isn't T1 #1 anymore.
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Aeadar wrote:
LeBlanc probably isn't T1 #1 anymore.


finally somebody said it out loud. couldn't agree more!
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As said EVERYWHERE dfg users didn't really use it on the competitive scene. I've played her and the damage is completely bonkers, just get Rabadon instead of DFG (aka second item or first if you're so fed you can finish morello afterwards). She still has absurd lane dominance and still roams aggressively, however people need to play her better now instead of popping DFG and (Q)RW
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Blian wrote:


finally somebody said it out loud. couldn't agree more!


Nice maymay, we probably aren't playing same game because leblanc is still as strong as before, because she was never played with dfg anyway. When champion can one shot without dfg, I don't think dfg removal affects it.
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Getting Rabadons as first item is stupidly inefficient.
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NicknameMy wrote:
Getting Rabadons as first item is stupidly inefficient.


Why? It's 120 AP, and I did say "if you're snowballing". It'll get you going really fast, unless there's really good reasons to get Zhonya first. I thought the first rule of snowballing was "get more damage"
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Aeadar wrote:
Ahri feels really good now with the MS buff on Q which is very versatile, her mobility makes her practically impossible to hit with most skillshots. She's less reliant on landing a charm for dealing damage, and has a more poke based playstyle.


She's broken as fk, her winrate is almost as high as Warwick's was in pre-season. The free ghost during Q is just way over the top.
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