7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=FalseoGod]My main issue with [[swain]] top is that 1) He has a hard time controlling the minion wave (bad clear, bad AA animation, tanking it early sux, tanking it later might destroy his mana reserves); 2) He's really susceptible to ganks early game, and while midlane he can still hit that powerspike and duel the squishies (unless he fed them a lot), toplane dealing with fed bruisers is an issue.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=VexRoth][quote=Pølsemanden]can someone tell me why swain isn't on the top-list?[/quote] I'm not an expert on [[Swain]], but I have tried him a time or two this season as a counterpick. Swain's abilities are relatively short ranged, he has very limited wave clear, no escapes, and his autoattack animation is horrible. Also [[Morellonomicon]] is really popular right now which shuts down his ability to heal up if he gets low. Swain is kind of like [[Nasus]]. If he gets going he can be a real terror but it is the getting him going that is the problem.[/quote] Swain's abilities aren't relatively short ranged on top lane, he out-ranges most except Lissandra. And his auto-attack animation isn't horrible, it's pretty smooth lol. He's not comparable to Nasus because Swain is a lane bully, not a passive farmer.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]Don't think theres a single good time to pick swain top. He can't lasthit for shit, has 0 wave control unless you max W, and has mana issues as well. (you don't get blue buffs as top lane either) His damage isn't anything to write home about either, his crowd control is at best slightly above average, and he falls off lategame as well.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]I don't think he's a particularly great top laner, but his mana issues are fairly minor in lane. The really good Swains I've played against who could get a lot of CS would sustain really well during the laning phase. It's mostly in team fights, when you leave your ult on and don't have time to farm up your mana, that you notice the lack of blue buff. He just seems like one of those one-trick-pony type of champions since he's not very reliable if you fall behind or get pushed to tower in lane.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]I see no reason to pick [[swain]] top over [[maokai]] top. Maokai just seems be much more suitable in today's meta compared to swain[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]Doesn't Swain counter Maokai?[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]Doesn't Swain counter Maokai?[/quote] [img=http://www.quickmeme.com/img/88/88712cfec4fc031df0aee5628efcf84b154a78830b2882461b62765bc77571bd.jpg][/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]All aboard the Luigi train Choo choo[/quote]

[quote=RazeMage]Shall [[Lux]] sees a bit more of play? I mean assassins are being nerf, which is [[lux]] weakness. I think she might deserved even tier 2[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]UoL, the Swain masters, beg to differ :D[/quote]