New Yi, new builds?

[quote=Vapora Dark]Can't remember who but someone said my new Talon build would work on the new Yi. Dunno if they're right or not, haven't bothered reading Yi's new kit.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Yeah, i said that because it is an ad assassin build. Yi has perfect synergy with [[youmuu's ghostblade]] and he has the potential to get a high amount of burst through [[alpha strike]]. Not to mention that 1 or 2 auto attacks after that hit for 1k damage each. The only things you have to know for this are 15% increased AD, a 100% AD ratio on [[Alpha Strike]], which is a 196% ([[lethality]]+[[infinity edge]]) ratio if it crits and 100+ true dmg per hit with an 80% AS steroid.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]Pretty sure new Yi won't be as viable with a 6 offensive item build though, so you'd have to forego either IE, Youmuu's or Black Cleaver. Probably Cleaver I guess, as he doesn't have as many spells to apply stacks as Talon does. Think Yi would be better with BT rather than Hydra too, 'cuz bigger synergy with crits, and it will benefit more from the 15% AD increase. + I don't think he'd work if you only took lifesteal as your last upgrade lol.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]I thought about that: http://beta.lol.fanrealm.net/lZNIRd4i90pqzxwJ4Ong/overview This build has 547 AD if you apply the 15% bonus AD. Since the only thing Yi is gonna stop at this build is CC, i would say [[mercurial scimitar]] fits perfectly. You only need a good timing on it, but you need generally a good timing with yi anyway. Yeah, [[the bloodthirster]] could be better, but at the same time, [[ravenous hydra]] has the delicious active. That I think depends on testing. It could also be that the amount of crit chance is too low, so there could be a different item for Hydra than [[the bloodthirster]] aswell.[/quote]

[quote=Thalia Kael]The ting is tat Talon as built in survivability troug is ult and can silence is target. Yi as no silence and meditate for survivability is going to be a joke since eac tick of eal won't give him full ealt.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]You also didn't jump in first as AP Yi did you? You play this type of Yi similar to AP Yi, except that you will not [[meditate]], unless there is a perfect situation for it. Your [[Alpha Strike]] does 1k damage if not more to each target hit, means 4k damage. And if it kills, you can use it again. And so on... To be viable in ranked or even competetive, you obviously have the same think to do like Alex Ich and CLG_eu. You got to get yourself [[Amumu]]/[[sejuani]] and [[Nunu]].[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64][quote=Thalia Kael] The ting is tat Talon as built in survivability troug is ult and can silence is target. Yi as no silence and meditate for survivability is going to be a joke since eac tick of eal won't give him full ealt. [/quote] h key op also the build vapora has been using on talon looks good[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210]I wouldn't compare Talon to Yi just because Talon has stealth. I do see [[Youmuu's Ghostblade]] working well for both of them. It gives them both a great combination of stats in a single item slot. I'll have to test it out, but I've always loved GB on Yi even before rework. I read your Talon guide Vapora and I agree that Yi won't work as well with a full offense build when compared to Talon. There is too much difference in their kits, although they do share a desire for similar stats.[/quote]

[quote=sulle17]I'd say AD Yi has gotten boosted, solo top/AD mid Yi seems to be an excellent option for him. Building like always with [[Phantom Dancer]] and [[Blade of the Ruined King]] with some AD/Crit like [[Infinity Edge]] and [[Ravenous Hydra]] will give him more than a decent damage output and quite the survivability unless you don't have a team with hard CC, which you feel safe enough to use everything on him, else he'll probably rip you apart with the correct items and gameplay.[/quote]

[quote=Thalia Kael]Like 99% top laners will destroy him top still. A wardens mail (keep in mind its going to be even cheaper) and he can't touch you. If he's still annoying get a thorn and watch him kill himself on you. Dill don't make fun of my laptop's broken H key =([/quote]