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Creator: jhoijhoi June 6, 2011 7:25am
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@Vort ofc not that would be sensible

@Jeffy Nasus clears in pretty much the same amount of time (~3:30)

with 9-21-0 masteries/AD quints and Marks, armor marks, and MR/level glyphs

was down about 30 HP when I got done (Soul Eater OP)...so, also, perfectly safe to gank.

could also easily gank at level 2 (wasn't even down 20 after wolves/blue) because don't really need red to gank with Nasus anyways. :P
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Did you ever consider that running Tiger Udyr was for the early game because you'll be building durability late? Late game Udyr is primarily a stun bot...Not some sort of DPS monstrosity. That's what your Carry roles do.

But that's how I look at Udyr, if I wanted to be a damage dealer late I would go Lee Sin. But I'm focused on being the front line of my team as Jungle Udyr. So I itemize accordingly.

The argument was made that "tiger udyr can't gank at level 3 after red because he won't have the HP for it" as well as some sort of opinion that his clear times aren't adequate compared to Phoenix.. I simply was attacking and countering those inaccurate statements.

That was what this whole discussion was about. I was merely stating that Tiger Udyr is actually good, if people actually know what they're doing.


There isn't much you've brought up that I haven't considered. Of course Tiger is primarily early game. But even in the early game, his damage is only higher than phoenix damage, if you can't get the third hit proc off on phoenix. Literally the only strength tiger has over phoenix in jungle is it can apply red buff stacks more quickly in ganks. That's it. And if you're playing Udyr with the primary goal of ganking lanes on the first clear of your jungle... brain may need checking. Also, a side note, phoenix udyr late game is a threat, not just a stun bot. In being a threat, he pulls focus away from the carries. He's a stun bot on top of this. Yes, he can do both. Tiger? Not so much, unless you're really fed.

Also, Lee jungle, if you're fed, can either be peal, and low dps for your carries late game, or an Assassin. If you're not fed (as in average farm and a couple kills -- or worse), all you can do late is peal and front-line for your carries. Being a damage dealer late game as Lee is a luxury, when fed. He's not a damage dealing jungler late by default.

The issue with tiger jungle at level 3 is you'll either have health and level 1 Q, W, and E, but do no damage on the gank, cause rank 1 Q, you'll do damage, but have no bear stance, or you'll do damage and have a stun, but have no health, in which case, you'll just die. If you get a point in Q, W, and E, and you don't successfully land the level 3 gank, you'll be really behind, as your jungle clear to 4 will be incredibly slow. It's not impossible to do, it just blows.

Tiger Udyr jungle is only good against players who blow. And Phoenix would still be better, most of the time, against those same players.
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I'm fairly new to league but I am loving most of it so far, most.That was me playing Sona, notice this was awhile ago when I didn't have much knowledge of builds, but thinking back I remember it was me and my friend playing as Vayne down bot lane, but our team was going crummy so I switched from support to full AP to give the team some power.
That was my friends stats end game. Was still in utter shock that we lost. Our team, besides us had 40 deaths between them sadly.
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I hate when I get someone who played bad on a game on my team as an opponent afterwards and they go all "see? I'm gud ;)"

Dood, you played TF and your first item was Sheen. Enemy yi was fed as ****. In our game, I was Nasus and you were Vladimir, congrats on killing me and winning the game with your legendary lulu pwning our jungle trynda and our kog (whose first ap item was a WOTA and who couldn't hit a single R)

Before you go "lol u suck", both games I had the least deaths, and I'm talking 5+ deaths difference. What did you do? Catch the team's snowballtrain on one and feed like mad on the other. Gj.
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Meh, people arguing about the viability of champs in the new jungle... NOW WHERE HAVE I SEEN THAT BEFORE.
For some reason i feel like the updates made this game less fun than it was..
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I'm not even lvl 30 yet, and I'm noobish. But I did QQ hard yesterday.
So I was playing Ashe bot, with and my friend was playing Soraka. First time ever I was playing a meta AD+supportvs AD+support bot lane. The enemy was Vayne + Nami. I was like WOW when my support doesn't ks my minions I can actually farm. I didn't push, got hit by aqua prision twice (The support wasn't very good). 90 creeps at 20 minute mark (It's bad, but it's still the best I ever did). Mid was a Lee Sin, curbstomping like ****. He ganked us twice, and the top caitelyn appeared too, both times. And it was like 5vs2/3. Super awesome team. Super awesome game.
The Nami sucked, but the vayne was pretty good, I didn't get if he was trying to deny Soraka's heals or what, but he ignited me every time it was off cooldown...
So second gank we just pushed till we burst the nexus 30 min victory. I was 6-0-8 (Damn Kaitelyn's laser :< she's just better at getting the guys who run.)
I was like WOOW Awesome... real nice game. I didn't carry at all (that Lee Sin was too good), but no troll Garen, not laining against brand + Graves bot... Best game ever. We finish the game, I just say exactly that in the chat... Honor the Vayne. And she just says 'Ashe, you aren't that good.'
Just like that.... D: D: D: Like, I know I'm not pro nor anything... but that's just mean T_T. He could've atleast said 'noob' atleast I'd take it as trolling.
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