Why are you stuck in "Elo Hell"?

[quote=tribness]the never ending discussion.. everytime i see someone QQ'ing about elo hell its always the same story, they won the lane (10-0 ; 20 -0 doesnt really matter) and some random top mid or whatever feed like hell, but they dont talk about all the factors in the game.. they just account for what they see on their lane, but there are so many factors left out.. what happen in your lane ? u got ganked from the enemy jungler ? u got help from your jungler ? and what about the "feeder" did he have help from the jungler or did he got wrecked by the enemy jungler and consequently leading to a feeding ? LoL is a team game and its not UT or COD where all u account for are you KD ratio. Also since its a team game, its not just individudal skill. its all about the team mechanics.. and in game i see a lot of ppl complaining about allies feeding when they dont leave their lanes or jungler, so its normal if the team feeds.. its 4 vs 5 how can they not fed ? elo hell exists because u play a Team game in a place( internet gamming comunity) where doesnt exist any team spirit![/quote]

[quote=samgoeslol]i hope you are not responding to my post just now cus thats exactly what i said xD if i lose a game even if its 10-0 there is usually something i coulda done to win (at least 60% of the time)[/quote]

[quote=tribness]lool nope. im responding to the post in general. but u have a really good answer for it too[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]Uh Darcurse, many high Elo players soloq, but many also Duo (such as on smurfs) their way up with other good players and then soloq when they get to diamondish elo. It just makes the climb a bit more fun, even though soloq is oftentimes (not always) a lot easier since you get paired with a lower average Elo group. And it is called solo/duo queue...how is that not fair lol?[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]It is not fair that you get matched with premade players while you're in as a Solo. What's so hard to understand here??? I don't care if Riot allows it! Let me repeat myself: "I dunno where you came up with the idea that if Riot allows it, it's fair, balanced or reasonable?" It's simply not ok. If I for example apply [b]SOLO[/b] for SoloQ I only want to play with/against ppl who did the same. Not to get bashed by a 2 men premade on bot lane who uses TS and play god-knows-how-long together already, why I only have this mindfuck of monkey who confuses enemies with allies! If you apply as a 2 men team you should play in matches consisting of 2 or 3 men teams only! (Maybe add the possibility of stuff like a 1-2-2 team in an OUTMOST case of need)[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]To be fair being premade has been a gamble to me if their on the same division, simply because we get pushed to last picks and have to make do with what we get, which is usually bot lane, which means we have to handle top 11-0 [[vi]] + team mates. Not always fun. Duo queueing with someone lower/above division has felt a lot more win-win.[/quote]

[quote=Xaioli]When you duo matchmaking gives the enemy team a bit more strong playerwise so let's say you duo queue two silvers, you will probably get 3 golds and the enemy team will have like 4 golds and 1 plat to kinda even it out. Generally though, the enemy team will also have a duo queue if you're duoing so idk what darcurse is talking about because it sounds fair to me. In the end, you lose to another duo or you got outplayed by lower ranked duo players and you should lose points to make way for them to climb up.[/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]I thought the enemy team has to have a duo if you have one?[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]Not. And even with an compensation like that "you get Silver premade, they get Gold"(if that's even happening), I can't see any difference between Silver, Gold or Bronze, there's not that much difference in ranked and there definitely is NON in SoloQ.[/quote]

[quote=BluAnimal]Maybe I'm just getting lucky but in Silver I I go top and dominate my lane as soon as possible. Once I take the tower (9-10 minutes in) I immediately roam and start ganking mid and bot. Keep in mind this is all as [[jax]] or [[olaf]]. Once we get a kill I immediately ping dragon and start asking for help/ward coverage. After we wipe the first 3 towers out I keep giving orders and for the most part, if you're 5/0, people will listen. No matter how bad they are. My only advice is don't be concerned with your lane and play alone. Roam when given chances and communicate. If at all possible, establish a gold lead in farm/kills/objectives and take a leadership role. People will listen if they think you're a good player.[/quote]