KONY 2012

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Bryun] [quote=DuffTime] People posting things like this. Again, I don't have a firm opinion on the matter and haven't even read the entire thing here, but these are examples of things popping up on my feed on facebook. http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/ [/quote] Ah, I see. There will always be problems regarding third-world countries involving rape/looting etc. But the capture of Kony would sure decrease the numbers drastically. Along with the financial problems, I don't see a big deal about it because they are doing a really good job publicizing the cause right now. I know you don't have an opinion on it, just want to give input on it. ^^ [/quote] Yarly, well I do have an opinion on the overall cause, but no opinion yet on the KONY group. It's caught my interest though, so I suppose mission accomplished in that regard.[/quote]

[quote=ClearDays]So THAT'S what this big KONY deal was on FB. :l[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn][quote=Bryun] Whoever says you shouldn't support this, I hope you burn in hell. There is nothing about this that gives a reason not to support. Please don't post anything negative about this, it'll piss me off and make me hate you. [/quote] there is [b][i]plenty[/i][/b] about this that gives a reason not to support. http://tumblr.thedailywh.at/post/18909727859/on-kony-2012-i-honestly-wanted-to-stay-as-far http://www.reddit.com/r/DAE/comments/qlqzd/am_i_the_only_one_who_is_suspicious_about/ http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/ http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/03/07/stop-kony-yes-but-dont-stop-asking-questions/ http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/03/07/guest_post_joseph_kony_is_not_in_uganda_and_other_complicated_things http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Children_Inc#Criticisms instead of donating to a charity which supposedly only donates 31% of the funds they receive to actually helping anyone, why not donate to a charity which is more reliable and will help more? a charity which doesn't support giving money to the Ugandan dictatorship/national army to fight the LRA? a charity which doesn't make Kony seem like the kingpin of the entire child soldier movement? he's not. [i]"Killing Kony won’t fix anything, just as killing Osama bin Laden didn’t end terrorism. The LRA might collapse, but, as Foreign Affairs points out, it is 'a relatively small player in all of this — as much a symptom as a cause of the endemic violence.' Myopically placing the blame for all of central Africa’s woes on Kony — even as a starting point — will only imperil many more people than are already in danger. Sending money to a nonprofit that wants to muck things up by dousing the flames with fuel is not helping. Want to help? Really want to help? Send your money to nonprofits that are putting more than 31% toward rebuilding the region’s medical and educational infrastructure, so that former child soldiers have something worth coming home to." [/i] so yes, it's great and all that IC is spreading the word and spreading awareness. donating money to them, however, is not the best decision at all. most people are becoming involved in this "fauxtivism" because they want to make themselves feel good and because they're bored. people are misinformed people are succumbing to peer pressure people are crawling all over KONY 2012 like a herd of sheep 30,000 children, according to the video, is indeed a pretty huge number so is 60,000 the number of children who starve to death every day as much as i agree that other tragedies should receive more help than isolated occurrences like this one purely on the number of lives at stake, it's a lot easier to stir up publicity for an "unusual" tragedy rather than the typical "starving children in africa". people think that raising awareness magically does something. it doesn't. it does what it says: raises awareness in the hope that people will take more action. unfortunately, people think that raising awareness=taking action now.[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong][quote=Jebus McAzn] [quote=Bryun] Whoever says you shouldn't support this, I hope you burn in hell. There is nothing about this that gives a reason not to support. Please don't post anything negative about this, it'll piss me off and make me hate you. [/quote] there is [b][i]plenty[/i][/b] about this that gives a reason not to support. http://tumblr.thedailywh.at/post/18909727859/on-kony-2012-i-honestly-wanted-to-stay-as-far http://www.reddit.com/r/DAE/comments/qlqzd/am_i_the_only_one_who_is_suspicious_about/ http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/ http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/03/07/stop-kony-yes-but-dont-stop-asking-questions/ http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/03/07/guest_post_joseph_kony_is_not_in_uganda_and_other_complicated_things http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Children_Inc#Criticisms instead of donating to a charity which supposedly only donates 31% of the funds they receive to actually helping anyone, why not donate to a charity which is more reliable and will help more? a charity which doesn't support giving money to the Ugandan dictatorship/national army to fight the LRA? a charity which doesn't make Kony seem like the kingpin of the entire child soldier movement? he's not. [i]"Killing Kony won’t fix anything, just as killing Osama bin Laden didn’t end terrorism. The LRA might collapse, but, as Foreign Affairs points out, it is 'a relatively small player in all of this — as much a symptom as a cause of the endemic violence.' Myopically placing the blame for all of central Africa’s woes on Kony — even as a starting point — will only imperil many more people than are already in danger. Sending money to a nonprofit that wants to muck things up by dousing the flames with fuel is not helping. Want to help? Really want to help? Send your money to nonprofits that are putting more than 31% toward rebuilding the region’s medical and educational infrastructure, so that former child soldiers have something worth coming home to." [/i] so yes, it's great and all that IC is spreading the word and spreading awareness. donating money to them, however, is not the best decision at all. most people are becoming involved in this "fauxtivism" because they want to make themselves feel good and because they're bored. people are misinformed people are succumbing to peer pressure people are crawling all over KONY 2012 like a herd of sheep 30,000 children, according to the video, is indeed a pretty huge number so is 60,000 the number of children who starve to death every day as much as i agree that other tragedies should receive more help than isolated occurrences like this one purely on the number of lives at stake, it's a lot easier to stir up publicity for an "unusual" tragedy rather than the typical "starving children in africa". people think that raising awareness magically does something. it doesn't. it does what it says: raises awareness in the hope that people will take more action. unfortunately, people think that raising awareness=taking action now. [/quote] Yea, I seriously wish people would put more time into research before becoming an extreme activist about this kind of stuff. There's many things to be suspicious about this specific campaign, plenty of evidence proves this.[/quote]

[quote=Vavena]I heard about this, almost all my league friends had Kony 2012 as their status...[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Well I think raising awareness is a good first step.[/quote]

[quote=Bryun][quote=Jebus McAzn] [quote=Bryun] Whoever says you shouldn't support this, I hope you burn in hell. There is nothing about this that gives a reason not to support. Please don't post anything negative about this, it'll piss me off and make me hate you. [/quote] there is [b][i]plenty[/i][/b] about this that gives a reason not to support. http://tumblr.thedailywh.at/post/18909727859/on-kony-2012-i-honestly-wanted-to-stay-as-far http://www.reddit.com/r/DAE/comments/qlqzd/am_i_the_only_one_who_is_suspicious_about/ http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/ http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/03/07/stop-kony-yes-but-dont-stop-asking-questions/ http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/03/07/guest_post_joseph_kony_is_not_in_uganda_and_other_complicated_things http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Children_Inc#Criticisms instead of donating to a charity which supposedly only donates 31% of the funds they receive to actually helping anyone, why not donate to a charity which is more reliable and will help more? a charity which doesn't support giving money to the Ugandan dictatorship/national army to fight the LRA? a charity which doesn't make Kony seem like the kingpin of the entire child soldier movement? he's not. [i]"Killing Kony won’t fix anything, just as killing Osama bin Laden didn’t end terrorism. The LRA might collapse, but, as Foreign Affairs points out, it is 'a relatively small player in all of this — as much a symptom as a cause of the endemic violence.' Myopically placing the blame for all of central Africa’s woes on Kony — even as a starting point — will only imperil many more people than are already in danger. Sending money to a nonprofit that wants to muck things up by dousing the flames with fuel is not helping. Want to help? Really want to help? Send your money to nonprofits that are putting more than 31% toward rebuilding the region’s medical and educational infrastructure, so that former child soldiers have something worth coming home to." [/i] so yes, it's great and all that IC is spreading the word and spreading awareness. donating money to them, however, is not the best decision at all. most people are becoming involved in this "fauxtivism" because they want to make themselves feel good and because they're bored. people are misinformed people are succumbing to peer pressure people are crawling all over KONY 2012 like a herd of sheep 30,000 children, according to the video, is indeed a pretty huge number so is 60,000 the number of children who starve to death every day as much as i agree that other tragedies should receive more help than isolated occurrences like this one purely on the number of lives at stake, it's a lot easier to stir up publicity for an "unusual" tragedy rather than the typical "starving children in africa". people think that raising awareness magically does something. it doesn't. it does what it says: raises awareness in the hope that people will take more action. unfortunately, people think that raising awareness=taking action now. [/quote] http://www.invisiblechildren.com/abouttri http://www.reddit.com/r/DAE/comments/qlqzd/am_i_the_only_one_who_is_suspicious_about/ The IC has also created a separate campaign where [quote] 100% of your contribution will go straight to advocacy, awareness and events that directly focus on ending the LRA's atrocities. Hundreds of thousands of people around the world are being called to action through TRI, as we continue to garner the social and political will necessary to stop Joseph Kony's atrocities. [/quote] called TRI. [quote= wahoowa0711] I just want to point out that while there may be/are concerns with the Invisible Children campaign, I feel that people should be able to donate money to any cause they see fit. I don't think they are necessarily misrepresenting the dangers of the LRA, and if you watch the video, they clearly state that the LRA has moved out of Uganda. And they also state that they want to keep advisers, not necessarily start a military intervention with the US acting unilaterally or even leading. [/quote] The main idea of the IC campaign was to get the word out, raise awareness, you didn't have to spend a dime if you didn't want too. I disagree that "raising awareness doesn't do something", that's just an opinion. Raising awareness is what starts it off and actually caught the attention of Obama, it was said this campaign also was to show that the public, care about the cause so the troops wouldn't be pulled from Uganda. [quote] On October 14, 2011, President Obama announced that he had ordered the deployment of 100 U.S. military advisors (with a mandate to train, assist and provide intelligence) to help combat the Lord's Resistance Army.[66] It has been reported that the bulk of the troops are from the Army Special Forces.[66][67] Obama said that the deployment did not need explicit approval from Congress, as the 2010 Lord’s Resistance Army Disarmament and Northern Uganda Recovery Act already authorized "increased, comprehensive U.S. efforts to help mitigate and eliminate the threat posed by the LRA to civilians and regional stability". [/quote] Which was also seen in the video. Granted not everyone is going to do what they actually say, but there are people willing to do more than just post a status on facebook, or any other social network site. It's more of what type of 'action' you're specifically talking about. As an example, there's a day April 20th where major cities are going to 'Cover The Night', and my city not being a major one decided to join in and it was purely the public's decision to participate. If you're talking about actually going to Africa to help, the campaign was targeted towards young adults, most young adults barely have money to go Africa. And that argument can be used on basically all the supporters of any campaign. Yes, there are other problems in the world, but there are also other organizations to help with those problems too. This one like you said was just easier to publicize. I think people who don't want to support are more concerned with the organization more than the general idea of the campaign, raise awareness, stop Kony. People should research more into it though but what they're are doing doesn't hurt anybody though. [quote] "Killing Kony won’t fix anything, just as killing Osama bin Laden didn’t end terrorism." [/quote] Won't fix anything? Killing Osama didn't end terrorism but it did create an impact against the terrorists with the loss of their leader. Same idea with capturing Kony. I'm not an expert but that's what I feel about this subject. There's always two sides to everything. Just sayin'..[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]The hell? There are actually people watching that 30 min youtube vid? 0o tl;dw applies here for me. So in short... Can someone explain what the hell this is about? xD[/quote]

[quote=Bryun][quote=IceCreamy] The hell? There are actually people watching that 30 min youtube vid? 0o tl;dw applies here for me. So in short... Can someone explain what the hell this is about? xD [/quote] KONY = Bad guy. GIST: Stop bad guy. Oh hey, perfect video of what I'm getting across. [center][embed=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPDJ6WlXzxU][/center][/quote]

[quote=B-Wong][quote=Bryun] [quote=IceCreamy] The hell? There are actually people watching that 30 min youtube vid? 0o tl;dw applies here for me. So in short... Can someone explain what the hell this is about? xD [/quote] KONY = Bad guy. GIST: Stop bad guy. [/quote] COMPLICATION: Stop bad guy =/= stop bad actions.[/quote]