Click to open network menu
Join or Log In
Mobafire logo

Join the leading League of Legends community. Create and share Champion Guides and Builds.

Create an MFN Account






Or

's Forum Avatar

Ezreal: AD, AP, or Hybrid?

Creator: Delandel March 6, 2011 10:56am
Nighthawk
<Veteran>
Nighthawk's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
10094
Joined:
Dec 7th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 7, 2011 3:32pm | Report
Lugignaf wrote:

Hey now. You just added in a 3rd item. That wasn't part of the original itemset. What are you trying to pull here?


I originally said anything below 8k...AA/MM is like 5k. It was just a point to emphasize how fricking expensive Gunblades are that you can get another item out of it and still get more AD/AP. Like, individually it's really good for EZ, but when you start getting more then one there are better options for less cost. I mean, unless you farm like 2k minions, or kill around 82 champions, you'll never get the amount of gold for all your gunblades. Just saying.



*CLOPCLOPCLOPCLOPCLOP*

The_Nameless_Bard
<Ancient Member>
The_Nameless_Bard's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
12983
Joined:
Jan 17th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 9, 2011 3:36pm | Report
AP Ez + Lichbane = abilities that don't suck and a decent basic attack when you use them.
what's so bad about that?
I'm amused that Kat should be built AP but Ez should not even though he does almost no damage when you go AD.
Jebus McAzn
<Retired Moderator>
Jebus McAzn's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
7017
Joined:
Sep 30th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 9, 2011 4:08pm | Report
Almost no damage? Wrong. AD Ezreal was viable before and isn't any less viable now that they buffed his Q and R to scale with AP as well.


Mercury's Treads
Trinity Force
Last Whisper
Banshee's Veil
Hextech Gunblade

For your sixth item, go Madred's Bloodrazor, Guardian Angel, or another Hextech Gunblade.

Simple as that. Great farmer, great sustainability with the LS from Gunblade, and amazing damage. Triforce+Last Whisper is your core on AD. Everything else is utility/damage/survivability.

Sure, AP is fine, but it doesn't have the oomph that old AP Ezreal did (the heal). AD is still superior, and the only thing that changing his Q and R did is to firmly put Gunblade ahead of Bloodthirster.

/thread
Searz
<Ancient Member>
Searz's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
13418
Joined:
Jun 6th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 9, 2011 4:55pm | Report
I don't see any reason to take Last Whisper over Bloodrazor.
None at all. The damage you get in lategame is just way higher with a MBR.
Time to graph. I'll make a graph that includes the difference in gold as AD with LW too.
Sittin' on chimneys, putting fire up my ***.

"I biked 12km in a blizzard today and mice are chewing on my chocolate bars. Life's good."
Jebus McAzn
<Retired Moderator>
Jebus McAzn's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
7017
Joined:
Sep 30th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 9, 2011 5:25pm | Report
Don't you at least need some armor penetration? :/
The_Nameless_Bard
<Ancient Member>
The_Nameless_Bard's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
12983
Joined:
Jan 17th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 9, 2011 5:37pm | Report
I found that AP Ez was easier than AD Ez because all of his abilities scale off of AP, while only 2 of them scale off of AD. Plus AP items tend to be cheaper.
Booshido
<Member>
Booshido's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
1423
Joined:
Jun 4th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 10, 2011 5:16am | Report
Searz wrote:

I don't see any reason to take Last Whisper over Bloodrazor.
None at all. The damage you get in lategame is just way higher with a MBR.
Time to graph. I'll make a graph that includes the difference in gold as AD with LW too.

i agree but the funny thing is when i do build a last whisper the damage feels as if its on another lvl, i dunno, GRAPH IT OKAY?
Searz
<Ancient Member>
Searz's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
13418
Joined:
Jun 6th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 10, 2011 6:13am | Report
Graphed. I used the build I've mentioned several times. It's pretty much Jebus' build+Manamune.
They're about equal damage wise. Below are the pros of each item.

LW gives more damage against tanks.
LW deals more damage on Mystic Shot.
LW costs less.
LW life steals more.

MBR gives way more damage against monsters. (tried VS baron and MBR deals almost 3 times more damage :3 )
MBR deals more damage on normal attacks.
MBR has way higher DPS. (because of the +40%AS)
MBR deals more damage against enemies that only stack armor. (makes attacks and Mystic Shot deal physical and magical damage)
MBR is a better final item.


I can't see a clear winner, but if money is not a problem MBR is a better item.

I could upload the graphs if you really want to, but I'm too lazy to do that now. Gotta get some food in mah belly.
I'm a strong independent black mage who don't need no mana.
Booshido
<Member>
Booshido's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
1423
Joined:
Jun 4th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 10, 2011 7:10am | Report
oo this is interesting! i felt like when getting a LW Mystic shot hit like a truck. so what if i build both. Bi-winning
Searz
<Ancient Member>
Searz's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
13418
Joined:
Jun 6th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 10, 2011 7:30am | Report
Nah, I think it's a better idea to get one. Depending on the situation.
Sittin' on chimneys, putting fire up my ***.

"I biked 12km in a blizzard today and mice are chewing on my chocolate bars. Life's good."

You need to log in before commenting.

League of Legends Champions:

Teamfight Tactics Guide